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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Was Shoved Down Our Throats - Now We May Have To Accept President Trump [View all]Phlem
(6,323 posts)91. From a YUUUUGE Hillary fan. Is he immature?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251658816
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_080320_hillary_clinton_s_re.htm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_080320_hillary_clinton_s_re.htm
In fact, the documents released today show a meeting that Hillary chaired at the White House on November 10, 1993 where she promoted the passage of NAFTA to 120 people. Reports are coming out in every news agency pointing out the contradictions between her stated positions since announcing her bid for the Presidency and everything before that.
One of the things you would expect of someone who really has good experience and judgment is that they can articulate a basic set of principles and positions on issues that they can run on and defend and that stay relatively static. I'm not saying you have to stick to them in the face of overwhelming evidence that one of your positions has been proven to be wrong, like George W. Bush does, even someone who has good experience and judgment occasionally changes their mind. That is not what we have with Hillary. Hillary gives a different opinion on the same subjects every couple of weeks depending on her audience and what she thinks it will net her. As evidence of this is now coming out and is going to be presented to the American people in the starkest terms, how can one be expected to trust her to do anything that she says she is going to do? How can one really know what she believes or intends to do about anything? The only things Hillary's experience seems to be good for is perfecting how to talk out of both sides of her mouth, engaging in the politics of personal destruction and other aspects of her ruthless pursuit of power that remind one of what a Karl Rove might do. That kind of person ought not to be the Democratic nominee.
One of the things you would expect of someone who really has good experience and judgment is that they can articulate a basic set of principles and positions on issues that they can run on and defend and that stay relatively static. I'm not saying you have to stick to them in the face of overwhelming evidence that one of your positions has been proven to be wrong, like George W. Bush does, even someone who has good experience and judgment occasionally changes their mind. That is not what we have with Hillary. Hillary gives a different opinion on the same subjects every couple of weeks depending on her audience and what she thinks it will net her. As evidence of this is now coming out and is going to be presented to the American people in the starkest terms, how can one be expected to trust her to do anything that she says she is going to do? How can one really know what she believes or intends to do about anything? The only things Hillary's experience seems to be good for is perfecting how to talk out of both sides of her mouth, engaging in the politics of personal destruction and other aspects of her ruthless pursuit of power that remind one of what a Karl Rove might do. That kind of person ought not to be the Democratic nominee.
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Hillary Was Shoved Down Our Throats - Now We May Have To Accept President Trump [View all]
Yallow
May 2016
OP
And by "shoved down our throats", you mean a majority of Democrats voted for her. Right?
1StrongBlackMan
May 2016
#1
So basically only your opinion counts and those who don't share it are mindless cattle
anigbrowl
May 2016
#94
But Bernie is not winning the Democratic Primaries, i.e., the vote of the Democrats that have voted
1StrongBlackMan
May 2016
#74
The Republicans prefer Hillary over Trump to win. After all, she is all for Wall Street.
Cal33
May 2016
#93
It's the primaries, why would you bring up a non primary#? Are you that confused?
themaguffin
May 2016
#43
in a super sketchy "election" where the referee was rabidly partisan on her behalf
AgerolanAmerican
May 2016
#82
What do you think would change a Trump presidency? A Trump presidency depends on
Thinkingabout
May 2016
#3
Landslide is coming for Hillary over conservatives...hate to break it to all
beachbumbob
May 2016
#4
Oh yes, we always forget that under #berniemath, candidates get +10 momentum points
Tarc
May 2016
#77
How did the 1% fare in Hitler's Germany? While Trump is far more of a dullard than the Fuhrer, he's
GreenPartyVoter
May 2016
#6
The Former First Lady is a horrible choice. The worst Dem candidate in decades...
NewImproved Deal
May 2016
#7
Huh? Shovel for what? Pretend what? All you are doing is proving my point. You're immature.
themaguffin
May 2016
#34
She accused people of being condescending while being condescending.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#50
It is ridiculous. I don't understand some here & the hyperbole & absolutes...
themaguffin
May 2016
#47
Want proof that Hill supporters lose their shit over the "smallest amount of criticism" ?
GreatGazoo
May 2016
#80
If she wins the primary would be the single worst Dem. candidate I've ever been faced with in the GE
EndElectoral
May 2016
#51
So you'll 'accept' Trump but won't lift a finger for Clinton. You let the mask slip a little there.
randome
May 2016
#65
There you have it, the toxic attitude of doom and gloom if you don't get your way.
procon
May 2016
#83
Well there's a nice gracious way of saying that your candidate won millions fewer votes,
Nye Bevan
May 2016
#100
I will be voting for Hillary in the California primary. Millions of people have already voted for
still_one
May 2016
#102
Clinton kicked Sanders ass. The people spoke. You don't like it. Tough shit. Deal!
seabeyond
May 2016
#113