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EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
33. The Trend is unmistakeable and troubling
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:41 AM
May 2016

Let's assume she wins the nomination. We will be going into the GE where as yet she has not been seriously swiftboated as she will unquestionably be by the right.

If Kerry could be done in by some Vietnam lies as badly as he was, HRC is going to be attacked on (a) her foreign policy failures with Libya at the forefront, (b) her flip flops and my God they are numerous, (c) the Clinton foundation, (this will be hit hard), (d) the email scandal (and if there is an indictment, the election will be lost even if she is found innocent)

I can already see debates between Trump and HRC which will be nothing but attack after attack and little positives for a vision of America except slogans. Most of it will be strident and pushed.

What is really disturbing is she is this close to a madman in the polls, and trending downward. Wait until the PACs start getting behind the Donald, and the GOP machine swallows its pride and begins to back him for the sake of congressional control and the supreme court. Only a few moderate republicans might vote for HRC, but they really dislike her as much as Trump. If enough neo-conservatives endorse her because they love her foreign policy, then she will get some moderates, but I believe the GOP voters are also a bit war weary and are not as supportive of neo-conservative foreign policy as they were under the Bush regime. Bottom line, turnout will be muted which never helps Dems.

I beleive she will be the Dem nominee, but it will later be viewed as the biggest mistake the party has made in decades in nominating such a flawed candidate.

Gravis dsc May 2016 #1
No, attacking every bad poll is not 'enough said' Joe the Revelator May 2016 #35
Gravis is a poorly rated poll though for sure. phleshdef May 2016 #40
538 has gone down the toilet this election cycle. coffeeAM May 2016 #50
Gravis has been in the toilet every election cycle. phleshdef May 2016 #53
WE. ARE. FUCKED. liberalnarb May 2016 #2
Affirmative. nt nc4bo May 2016 #16
thats because the malcontents keep Bernie from dropping out and letting Hillary pivot ericson00 May 2016 #3
Bernie drop out? Maybe these polls show it is time for Clinton to drop out since she is unelectable! coffeeAM May 2016 #5
.....or vice-versa. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #7
Sure. It's Bernie's fault that Hillary can barely compete with an idiot. Dawgs May 2016 #12
By "Pivot" you mean take back every liberal sounding position she claimed to be for in the primary pengu May 2016 #14
That's exactly what is meant Prism May 2016 #51
It's all because of some mean people on DU. panader0 May 2016 #15
Right, it's Bernie's fault that Hillary's unfavorables are so high. marmar May 2016 #21
You mean... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #28
How does she go from a big lead to this? Merryland May 2016 #4
Not a good trend for Hillary One Black Sheep May 2016 #6
The trewnd is showing down by ten is coming within a month! coffeeAM May 2016 #9
? JudyM May 2016 #11
Wouldn't surprise me One Black Sheep May 2016 #13
Both are disliked by large segments within their respective parties. gordianot May 2016 #8
Superdelegates: do your job and ditch the impending GE disaster! Betty Karlson May 2016 #10
Gravis shows Hillary up 51-49? Dem2 May 2016 #17
The results are similar to left leaning ppp coffeeAM May 2016 #20
OK? Dem2 May 2016 #37
How much of a lead do you think Bernie would have after sustained right wing attacks? Arkansas Granny May 2016 #18
Clinton backers said the same thing about Obama in 08, coffeeAM May 2016 #22
But the majority of the primary voters seem to love Clinton. She leads by over 3,000,000 votes. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #25
Your living in the Democratic primary bubble where most of the country is locked out from voting. coffeeAM May 2016 #29
Most of the country? Or just those who didn't register as Democrats? Arkansas Granny May 2016 #30
What you are saying is Independents and Unaffiliated voters should sit in the Autumn May 2016 #38
What I'm saying is that Bernie decided to become a Democrat so he could run in the Presidential Arkansas Granny May 2016 #39
" It seems to me that registered Democrats should be the people who determine the Autumn May 2016 #41
And I stand by that statement. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #42
I left the democratic party after over 40 years a dem, re registered to caucus for Bernie. Autumn May 2016 #43
Ya lets make sure we lock out everyone else, so we can make sure the establishment dem always wins. coffeeAM May 2016 #45
Honestly, I believe he'd beat Trump. TDale313 May 2016 #23
Ignore the noise, look at the aggregate poll charts instead. BootinUp May 2016 #19
Gearing up for the weakest election in sometime. runaway hero May 2016 #34
I predict the opposite. She will ride the Obama coalition BootinUp May 2016 #36
Obama went is as one of the most likeable/electable candidates in history, not one of the least. coffeeAM May 2016 #46
And 2012 proved it won't take that. nt BootinUp May 2016 #48
She wins runaway hero May 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn May 2016 #44
Still with these tired memes? Tarc May 2016 #24
You're right. What people think doesn't matter. imagine2015 May 2016 #26
LOL, That is why every poll That had Clinton with a huge double digit lead over Trump coffeeAM May 2016 #27
They mattered when she was +11 a month ago. runaway hero May 2016 #32
Bingo! coffeeAM May 2016 #47
Her likability. runaway hero May 2016 #31
The Trend is unmistakeable and troubling EndElectoral May 2016 #33
Terrible. Awful. Katashi_itto May 2016 #49
if Hillary Clinton doesn't embrace Progressive party politics, we are doomed. The party will split, highprincipleswork May 2016 #52
Mmm I love the smell of dough CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #54
So placing Hillary's name second with a lead means Trump is going to beat her? nt Jitter65 May 2016 #56
The MSM wants a horserace Mnpaul May 2016 #57
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