2016 Postmortem

Hortensis

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59. Good post, DemsRule.

Mon May 16, 2016, 11:55 AM

May 2016

Pinebox, Gore was a decent, articulate, intelligent, and sufficiently attractive and charming candidate with an excellent liberal progressive agenda. Lies won't change that.

The dynamics of a two-party race would have been entirely different from the three-party race with two of the parties double-teaming to bring down Gore. Like what has already been happening with Sanders and Trump double-teaming Hillary, but of course ultimately much worse.

DemsRule is entirely justified in blaming Nader and those who supported Nader for the election of W. Nader was a huge factor in throwing that election, and we know Nader's voters were willing to have W win.

DU's Nader/SBSers can deny it all they want, here and everywhere, but we all know most refuse to "out" themselves as former naderites and we all know the reason.

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Even Nader thinks Bernie is terrible at politics [View all] forjusticethunders May 2016 OP

Nader didn't help elect Bush pinebox May 2016 #1

Nader put them in a position to steal it. One of the 99 May 2016 #3

Wrong. pinebox May 2016 #12

Yes that is wrong One of the 99 May 2016 #17

No, Jim Hightower is not wrong. PDittie May 2016 #44

Not an urban legend but the truth. One of the 99 May 2016 #47

Nader was WILLING to cost Gore the election. Hortensis May 2016 #55

Nader got 2.74% of the vote. He was NOT a factor riderinthestorm May 2016 #71

Precisely. PDittie May 2016 #69

Wow pmorlan1 May 2016 #32

I don't support Hillary. One of the 99 May 2016 #34

My apologies pmorlan1 May 2016 #35

Thanks! One of the 99 May 2016 #46

97,000+ nader voters in florida secured florida for bush.... beachbum bob May 2016 #6

Gore couldn't even win his home state pinebox May 2016 #14

Guess those Nader apcalc May 2016 #28

To be fair, Tennessee has been solid red in all but 2 elections since 1980. phleshdef May 2016 #58

Because his home state was Tennessee - which was going redder over the years karynnj May 2016 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #77

Oh no Demsrule86 May 2016 #11

You're wrong pinebox May 2016 #16

sorry Nader and the greens are dead to me. Demsrule86 May 2016 #19

No shock considering Greens are very progressive and you aren't. pinebox May 2016 #20

Nothing progressive about these losers Demsrule86 May 2016 #50

Why is it so hard to understand pinebox May 2016 #51

Good post, DemsRule. Hortensis May 2016 #59

Gore may have been a shitty candidate Demsrule86 May 2016 #67

Don't worry. That's going to change. Yavin4 May 2016 #48

Let's hope not...I still think Hillary can win Demsrule86 May 2016 #49

No sorry but Hillary will get Trump elected pinebox May 2016 #52

That's a single analysis piece. Adrahil May 2016 #21

Uh sure. Hillary logic in full effect pinebox May 2016 #24

NO, here's the ballot analysis that supports the facts that Nader didn't cost Gore the election riderinthestorm May 2016 #72

Try not to forget gore lost 250,000 democratic voters who switched to Bush in Florida timmymoff May 2016 #39

It came down to Florida Demsrule86 May 2016 #43

Here's the ballot analysis that supports the facts that Nader didn't cost Gore the election riderinthestorm May 2016 #73

Keep saying it. LWolf May 2016 #26

Not mention a Democratic candidate and party that rolled over dflprincess May 2016 #78

Nader denialism lives redstateblues May 2016 #80

"If only I had known this shit before supporting him in the first place" Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #2

"Nobody could possibly like Bernie and then change their mind!" forjusticethunders May 2016 #7

Nice straw man...does it scare birds away from your garden? Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #13

"Vanity leftism"? If you ever supported Bernie demwing May 2016 #53

"Reject everything that doesn't fit the Narrative!" nt forjusticethunders May 2016 #60

I used to support Bernie too. Not any more. JaneyVee May 2016 #4

Please give us a link to one post where you ask Eric J in MN May 2016 #23

So this is Team Hillary's "I used to support Bernie, but now I'm disillusioned" period. virtualobserver May 2016 #27

Hows this for transparency: JaneyVee May 2016 #31

Bernie hasn't changed......and by August of last year, you were comparing him to Ron Paul. virtualobserver May 2016 #37

There has been no NorthCarolina May 2016 #57

OUCH!!! BHAMMMMMM!!! Jitter65 May 2016 #38

That did not mean you were for Bernie - it meant you did not want him to run as an independent karynnj May 2016 #62

It's too bad Hillary did the exact opposite by changing DNC rules to get more corporate donations .99center May 2016 #75

You'd better get used to Bernie losing support. Hortensis May 2016 #63

keep spinning....Hillary supporters are physically attacking people... virtualobserver May 2016 #64

Lol. You know, Bernie is now a national figure Hortensis May 2016 #68

You have always been a hyper partisan Hillary person. nt Lucky Luciano May 2016 #29

Yes, recently. But i used to be a hyperpartisan Bernie supporter. JaneyVee May 2016 #33

Come on Sis. We were born at night but it wasn't last night. timmymoff May 2016 #40

Bye bye Bernie Butter. 99Forever May 2016 #5

Go far away Nader kevink077 May 2016 #8

Oh for sure forjusticethunders May 2016 #9

Finally, people are quoting Nader at DU! Is this Brietbart or, or sexism? lol What are we saying WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #10

And Nader is such an authority at politics? randr May 2016 #15

Remind me how many votes Nader got, again. Seems to me that Bernie has outperformed Nader. stone space May 2016 #18

Oh, very definitely. Nader is in no position to lecture Bernie Sanders on politics, bjo59 May 2016 #82

The Gin Blossoms wrote a song about it: Hiraeth May 2016 #22

Fuck Ralph Nader. baldguy May 2016 #25

Nader! snort May 2016 #30

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #36

I Wouldn't Return Ralph "the Traitor" Nader's Phone Calls Either Stallion May 2016 #41

the jury voted without me Mosby May 2016 #42

Several people have said Sanders is difficult to work with. Starry Messenger May 2016 #45

You are no longer entitled to your own opinion and interpretation of history The Second Stone May 2016 #54

Quite right. PDittie May 2016 #70

This is great. NCTraveler May 2016 #56

THIS Is From MARCH 2014, I Suggest Anyone Here "Google" ChiciB1 May 2016 #65

Cuz Nader said he did not go after her enough! ViseGrip May 2016 #66

Even Nader? Because he was so good at it Ferd Berfel May 2016 #74

I don't care what Nader thinks now, much less what he thought two years ago. winter is coming May 2016 #76

And this paragraph makes so underthematrix May 2016 #79

I can't believe people on this site still defend Nader redstateblues May 2016 #81

Even Nader thinks Bernie is terrible at politics? Excuse me? Come on. bjo59 May 2016 #83

I'm n.ot a saint Bernie fan, but fuck Nader Lil Missy May 2016 #84