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2016 Postmortem

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ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:46 PM May 2016

I called the Kentucky Sec. of State office this morning....oh my! [View all]

I called to tell them I was disappointed in the outcome/integrity of the election under Alison Grimes. I said it did not matter who I support. What matters is that she made a comment it was 'her job' to deliver Kentucky to Hillary Clinton, and then last night she stated she had "glitches". Then they accidentally zeroed out Pike County! Once you do that, you cannot accept electronic numbers, without verifying with a larger audit. Or full count of the county. I told her I felt Alison failed at her job, and it was awful on the heels of MA, IL, AZ, NY, DE, NV, MD, AND NOW KY. As in K-Y shenanigans!

Here is what I was told. "We do not talk about elections, and you must call the Kentucky Democratic Party." I replied, "But Alison does talk about elections, as it's her job! "Not really the deliver part for Hillary, but she came out and told us she had glitches and Pike County was zeroed out. She is in charge of the election in the entire state! Of course she speaks on elections!
She replied, "this is a Kentucky Democratic Party issue, and you must call them."

I replied "the job of the Kentucky Democratic Party is to GOTV. Once the voters enter your voting space, they are your responsibility. Not 'the party'. Why would I call them? It's NOT their issue! Again, I stated they get the voters to come out to vote, but what happens while voting, and counting the vote, is up to the state, not the party! She again replied, "it's the democratic party, and you must call them."

I said thank you, I will, and I'm also now glad Alison is not a U.S. senator. This is a glimpse of her lack of accountability and passing a buck. Please tell her I said so.

Then I called the Kentucky Democratic Party.

Ohhhh my. The lady on the phone was very nice and calm. She was stunned that I was told by the Sec. of States office in KY, to contact them. I told her what I said about who's job is what, and once people go into vote, the 'party' has nothing to do with the outcomes, glitches, or zeroing out of counties by mistake! She said of course!

So I said, well, I want to know exactly what happened, and what is being done about it under Kentucky state law. She said, "but you already know that we can't answer that, it's up to Alison Grimes and the state law." I then said my real purpose was to call and make them aware of Alison's office passing me off to them.
They didn't like it at all.
She told me she was contacting them right away to ask why in the world they are telling people they can't talk about elections, when that is their job, and why are they telling people to call the Kentucky Democratic Party???

Feel free to see if it did any good. Call Alison Grimes office and ask how it's going, and how they are rectifying it all.

Kentucky Sec. of State
502-564-3490

IF...you are told to call 'the party, call them and let them know they're still doing this. Democracy thanks you.

Kentucky Party
502-695-4828


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good idea kudos NT Fresh_Start May 2016 #1
keep the spotlight on! boomer55 May 2016 #2
Got to keep her in the ViseGrip! ViseGrip May 2016 #25
Well, I confess that I got a very pleasant woman named Mary Sue who was helpful in at least pointing highprincipleswork May 2016 #3
She was pleasant. And I did know what to ask, and how to answer her b.s.she was told to say. ViseGrip May 2016 #16
yes, was going to call back myself. but how about revealing your words of wisdom? highprincipleswork May 2016 #18
Whatever it takes to win. deathrind May 2016 #4
Exactly. DWS and Hillary have ruined the party. Now we can get rid of the DINOS. ViseGrip May 2016 #12
K&R - Awesome. Well done. Thanks for the numbers. nt 99th_Monkey May 2016 #5
Good going. There were a couple smaller area counties that I noticed were zeroed out around the JudyM May 2016 #6
"a Sec of State glitch" means the Sec of State requested the glitch to occur. lagomorph777 May 2016 #8
Not necessarily. But what it does is raise questions. Since electronic voting is so easy to Skwmom May 2016 #19
does ky use paper ballots or what? questionseverything May 2016 #7
Yes, they do. My paper ballot was counted by a machine. MelissaB May 2016 #9
here is what i can find on recounting in ky questionseverything May 2016 #10
I hope Bernie puts out an email asking for 5.00 from all of us for a recount. Then we can! ViseGrip May 2016 #13
if the ky recount would include all election materials and a hand count questionseverything May 2016 #15
He'd certainly have to pay for some counties, but I don't think he'd have to pay for all of them. winter is coming May 2016 #23
I sent this to TYT and Thom Hartmann, let's see if they do anything with it. pdsimdars May 2016 #11
Thank you! Need to get them in the vise grip! ViseGrip May 2016 #14
0.3% difference ---> can a recount be demanded? JackRiddler May 2016 #17
The delegate split would be the same regardless of the "winner." Metric System May 2016 #28
Not the point of the exercise. JackRiddler May 2016 #34
Our prirmary didn't matter much, so I doubt it was rigged. DemocraticWing May 2016 #20
It is not the need for delgate that mattered TimPlo May 2016 #43
Heads I win, tail you lose!! Bleacher Creature May 2016 #21
Oh Well Done ViseGrip! Ferd Berfel May 2016 #22
You got what I call Standard Answer 35B. hobbit709 May 2016 #24
Didn't the Florida Secretary of State say something similar in 2000 about her job merrily May 2016 #26
K and R bigwillq May 2016 #27
Every state Sanders has lost MFM008 May 2016 #29
He did not accuse. The Kentucky Sec of State announced 'glitches' & zeroing out of several counties. ViseGrip May 2016 #31
What is it with Bernie fans and telephone calls? n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #30
Just wanted to ask how they are rectifying their fuckups. They sent me to the 'party'. ViseGrip May 2016 #32
Do you want my input, as a random person on the Internet? Kang Colby May 2016 #33
Must have a lot of free time. Starry Messenger May 2016 #42
Thank you for doing this. 840high May 2016 #35
You're welcome. Alison Grimes proves she's incompetent. ViseGrip May 2016 #36
K & R AzDar May 2016 #37
K&R emsimon33 May 2016 #38
I'd like to know why De La Fuente had votes taken away. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #39
Call the media and write letters to the editors of papers in the state. Vinca May 2016 #40
Due to Alison's comment, delivering for Hillary, should she recuse herself? ViseGrip May 2016 #41
You got the run around...they are now having a good laugh at your expense. Demsrule86 May 2016 #44
Oh no, the party called and they got the right message for people calling. ViseGrip May 2016 #45
If you think this is funny Aerows May 2016 #47
What this "primary" has accomplished Aerows May 2016 #46
Exactly. Fraud in so many states has served as great edu reaching many more! ViseGrip May 2016 #48
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