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2016 Postmortem

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CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:34 AM May 2016

It's always Hillary's fault, it's always Hillary's job [View all]

As we near the end, and word is that Bernie is quietly telling people behind the scenes that he's going to find a way to play nice once the primaries are over, we are approaching the point in time where we, as a party, unify. Or at least try to.

The common narrative is that unity is Hillary's responsibility, that it is her job to mollify the Sanders supporters who are currently unwilling to giver her their vote. That's partially true. Except for one thing.

In 2008, when the roles were reversed, the narrative was that it was Hillary's job to get her people in line and convince them to support Obama in the fall. The discord was blamed on her, and the calls for unity were nearly exclusively pointed towards her.

So what has changed in eight years to switch the onus from the loser to the winner? There are only two things I can see. 1) Genders have switched, and unconscious sexism is making the woman take the blame, or 2) Hillary really is uniquely held to a different standard than anyone else.

This is one of the reasons why Clinton supports keep laughing at the accusations that the media is biased against Bernie. No one faces the day-to-day intransigence that she does.

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True this. nt DURHAM D May 2016 #1
I'll take Genders have switched for $2000 CCD! boston bean May 2016 #2
Gender flip-flop, indeed. Sad truth! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #3
Ultimately, Hillary is responsible. It's her campaign cali May 2016 #4
I liked your comments from 2008: joshcryer May 2016 #16
There was a lot of pressure on Obama too. CanadaexPat May 2016 #5
Poor poor Hillary Uponthegears May 2016 #6
Leave Hillary alone! pinebox May 2016 #7
well, maybe Ferd Berfel May 2016 #22
Good point. Sparkly May 2016 #8
You're forgetting something. Sanders said he would help her IF Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #9
Listen to yourself. You put the onus on her to abandon her winning platform, and become Bernie. CrowCityDem May 2016 #10
It's the condition he stated when he said he'd do it. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #13
She has a platform? mindwalker_i May 2016 #14
What an ignorant remark. Nonhlanhla May 2016 #32
Call a wambulance arikara May 2016 #11
I'm not obligated to fall in lock-step just because someone else thinks it's her turn. Ferd Berfel May 2016 #12
The people voted. You denigrate peoples votes. seabeyond May 2016 #18
failed redirect..... No. I reserve my right to have a reason other than Ferd Berfel May 2016 #20
Reducing to people thinking it is her turn absolutely denigrates peoples votes, you know it, why you seabeyond May 2016 #25
Wrong again Ferd Berfel May 2016 #31
Nope. Not wrong. That is what you did with intent. seabeyond May 2016 #33
While the people making those arguments don't get it, it's a sign of respect. NCTraveler May 2016 #15
It is the woman's job. Always the woman's job to make nice. One of the many quiet, underling effects seabeyond May 2016 #17
Our Lady of Perpetual Martyrdom, pray for us! n/t QC May 2016 #19
Wonder if they think they can get away with that Ferd Berfel May 2016 #21
That's a good question. So far her campaign has consisted QC May 2016 #23
I can't imagine Trump or his supporters being cowed by a few tweets. frylock May 2016 #27
.. frylock May 2016 #26
Since my side is always right, it is always the OTHER side's fault and responsibility to fix things. pampango May 2016 #24
K and r. cwydro May 2016 #28
Serious question for Hills' supporters TeddyR May 2016 #29
Hillary is always the victim AgingAmerican May 2016 #30
Whose surrogates repeatedly insulted and belittled millennials? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #34
Whose surrogates belittled black voters? CrowCityDem May 2016 #35
We cant play the game both ways because only one is going to need those voters in the general. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #36
Yes, only the winner will need votes. Bernie won't need any on his couch. CrowCityDem May 2016 #37
Ooooooo! Why, you!!!! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #38
If you addressed my initial point, I would have gladly discussed it. CrowCityDem May 2016 #40
I did. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #41
The point: CrowCityDem May 2016 #42
Both sides worked for unity in 2008. And Hillary stayed in until the end. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #43
Poor Hillary. Life is so hard for her. bigwillq May 2016 #39
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