2016 Postmortem

floppyboo

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97. No one is arguing that. We've all got eyes and ears.

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:28 PM

Jul 2016

There is the issue of security clearances, which my gut says the DOJ will be fine with. It's all the other noise.
Back to listening to Obama. He's knockin it out of the park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I will not be gracious in victory over the FBI investigation. [View all] Zynx Jul 2016 OP

So true. MariaThinks Jul 2016 #1

You view it as a victory? TCJ70 Jul 2016 #2

Oh bullshit. He said explicitly no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges. Zynx Jul 2016 #3

You're not a lawyer and therefore don't understand the subtleties brooklynboy49 Jul 2016 #179

I'm sure you think you're very clever there, but you ignored a simple thing in your own argument. Zynx Jul 2016 #196

Did you miss the part where they scoured ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY for a comparable prosecution BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #4

They don't care because they never actually cared about the facts. Zynx Jul 2016 #9

Agreed. Add this faux concern to the pile with all of the rest of it. nt BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #12

No, they presented Fox News spin as fact, and now they are working overtime emulatorloo Jul 2016 #27

Victory n/t Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #5

Your "concern" is noted. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #6

Thanks for keeping track! TCJ70 Jul 2016 #7

"Your "concern" is noted. nt" DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #59

Yep, that's what they said...n/t TCJ70 Jul 2016 #62

Who is they and what did they say? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #64

I thought you were quoting Dr. Hobbitstein... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #67

Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #68

Splodey heads don't view it as this ... splodey heads hate her anyway uponit7771 Jul 2016 #8

The primary is over Dem2 Jul 2016 #14

And there is a great deal of hair pulling on these sites Gothmog Jul 2016 #123

Reccing the thread, TCJ70, and with it any posts illustrating Hortensis Jul 2016 #16

I had no hopes for an indictment... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #19

Your virtuous disapproval will be her "consequence," CJ70. Hortensis Jul 2016 #22

LOL. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #35

LOL leftofcool Jul 2016 #132

But you clearly never broke a rule in your life, did you? randome Jul 2016 #31

Oh, I definitely have... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #34

And this didn't come anywhere close to being an actionable violation. So...case closed. randome Jul 2016 #37

Au contraire, HRC WAS PROVEN INNOCENT. :) Hortensis Jul 2016 #111

That's another way of look at it! randome Jul 2016 #119

where did you get that? She was proven negligent and careless. That is not to celebrate larkrake Jul 2016 #155

Will everyone who has never been careless and negligent please step forward? Arneoker Jul 2016 #159

that is why he did not criminalize larkrake Jul 2016 #161

Where did you go wrong? Cordy Jul 2016 #202

PROVEN? by whom? a rightwing hack who's been on her ass since Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #203

See my post, above brooklynboy49 Jul 2016 #180

Have you ever held a clearance? Adrahil Jul 2016 #51

Thank you 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #74

What is there to pursue? calimary Jul 2016 #183

there were consequences treestar Jul 2016 #116

Thank you SO MUCH for your concern! n/t NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #40

You're SO welcome! n/t TCJ70 Jul 2016 #43

TCJ70 and others earn our thanks every day. Hortensis Jul 2016 #104

The problem for me is that Comey left the door wide open floppyboo Jul 2016 #41

He just said... Adrahil Jul 2016 #53

"No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case." -- FBI Director Comey MADem Jul 2016 #82

Thanks for the actual quote +1. NT Adrahil Jul 2016 #83

Hortensis was first! But it does bear repeating, over and over again! MADem Jul 2016 #84

that wasn't the quote I was referring to. floppyboo Jul 2016 #96

Did you mean the FBI finding: "NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE?" Hortensis Jul 2016 #109

No, I meant this one: floppyboo Jul 2016 #114

People aren't indicted for "administrative sanctions," Hortensis Jul 2016 #115

I wasn't talking about indictment. I don't believe I mentioned it once. floppyboo Jul 2016 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #157

Innocence was not proven, neither was intent. It is a non issue that grows mistrust larkrake Jul 2016 #170

That dog isn't hunting. nt MADem Jul 2016 #128

No one is arguing that. We've all got eyes and ears. floppyboo Jul 2016 #97

Obama blew the roof off that rally today! nt Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #153

Still praying to the fairy? nolawarlock Jul 2016 #92

Why indeed? nolawarlock Jul 2016 #90

If you haven't noticed by now, some in America have NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #171

I watched it too and that passage made me think of some one else who did just that — Snowden brush Jul 2016 #20

You noticed that, too? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #36

Would that mean Comey supports Snowden??? Or that Snowden supporters are pro-Hillary? floppyboo Jul 2016 #44

NO ... those DUers wishing upon the HRC Indictment fairy were/are very supportive of Snowden. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #54

That is the part of this that disgusts me most. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #91

Yup, yup, and yup. The most morally bankrupt Hortensis Jul 2016 #112

Good golly Miss Molly! sheshe2 Jul 2016 #140

Same here Gothmog Jul 2016 #125

I'm good. I'm taking July off in real life politically ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #127

In comparison, I am about to OD on politics for July Gothmog Jul 2016 #136

I noticed that, too obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #47

+1000 n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #80

"No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case." -- FBI Director Comey MADem Jul 2016 #81

Absolutely its a victory... a victory for common sense and fairness. DCBob Jul 2016 #17

he did not say she isnt a criminal, he said it would not be easy to indict so far larkrake Jul 2016 #156

If there was a crime he would have recommended legal action. DCBob Jul 2016 #158

there are degrees of criminality. He can not prosecute without solid proof of intent larkrake Jul 2016 #163

I think she is completely innocent of anything resembling a crime. DCBob Jul 2016 #164

you are entitled to your opinion, and intent was never implied by Comey or me larkrake Jul 2016 #165

Intent is critical to making it a crime. DCBob Jul 2016 #167

that is just another mistake, less damaging than the previous mistakes larkrake Jul 2016 #168

I dont think it had anything to do with "secrecy". It was about convenience and control. DCBob Jul 2016 #169

control of what? larkrake Jul 2016 #172

Server and system. DCBob Jul 2016 #173

that is secrecy larkrake Jul 2016 #174

Not to me. Secrecy implies hiding something she shouldn't be hiding. DCBob Jul 2016 #176

then we have to agree to disagree, it is a habit over several years larkrake Jul 2016 #177

And didn't happen nt Cordy Jul 2016 #204

It has nothing to do with friends in high places creeksneakers2 Jul 2016 #201

sour grapes are bitter nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #18

Yes, I do. What else could they say, we wasted months La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #23

It's always a bad sign when you have to make stuff up to support an argument. lapucelle Jul 2016 #33

I didn't make anything up... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #121

Yes it is. The consequence was the investigation. ehrnst Jul 2016 #38

I agree -- she was treated differently obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #49

Boy, this going well huh TC? underpants Jul 2016 #56

It's going as expected. TCJ70 Jul 2016 #63

No prob underpants Jul 2016 #65

Are you making these criticisms in order to help Hillary become a better candidate per the rules? nolawarlock Jul 2016 #89

Hah! The Republican FBI director just couldn't resist adding his politically-motivated pnwmom Jul 2016 #94

Poor you. Squinch Jul 2016 #137

If he could demonstrate that she broke a law, then he would have. pnwmom Jul 2016 #152

Yes,there are bigger issues to take care of. Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #10

Wow, how could I have forgotten that tidbit? Suggest you make this an OP. Hekate Jul 2016 #15

Thanks, Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #21

Wow, me too. Needs repeating. I only remembered Hortensis Jul 2016 #113

Oh, it hurts. joshcryer Jul 2016 #11

Oh, it seems to be hurting a lot Dem2 Jul 2016 #13

A-friggin'-men! A massive K & R. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #24

In your face, haters. mwrguy Jul 2016 #25

I find your post quite ironic corkhead Jul 2016 #142

Like rain on your wedding day mwrguy Jul 2016 #144

Have fun in your sandbox corkhead Jul 2016 #146

I find your post perfect! Her Sister Jul 2016 #185

Thanks :) mwrguy Jul 2016 #195

Rightwingers have no shame, thats why they spread bullshit with such glee bravenak Jul 2016 #26

They were salt of the earth bullshitters, you know The Second Stone Jul 2016 #28

Awesome Blazing Saddles reference there. nt BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #95

The Second Stone only pawn The Second Stone Jul 2016 #120

I can hear the wailing on JPR from here. On edit... stevenleser Jul 2016 #29

Wow, they really are just like the Freepers. Alfresco Jul 2016 #45

One poster is hoping the Republicans "save them". HamiltonSwan Jul 2016 #135

Not enough Thorazine in the world..... okasha Jul 2016 #149

Many of them used to post here (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2016 #151

Agreed! And welcome to DU :-) Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #191

I love the glowing reviews for Comey as they gleefully anticipated. joshcryer Jul 2016 #46

Ken Starr's lead investigator, Comey obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #50

Yep. joshcryer Jul 2016 #61

Good lord, and that site says they are liberal??? obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #52

There are a number of former DUers over there (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2016 #66

the crazy left and the crazy right eventually find common ground by going geek tragedy Jul 2016 #77

Seriously obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #182

yes, liberals and progressives see 3rd wayers as warts larkrake Jul 2016 #166

lolz obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #181

Lol, there's a reason I refer to that cesspool as jackass radicals. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #85

OMG lol- they are hoping Asssange or Guccifer will "bring her down"..... bettyellen Jul 2016 #126

And to show you how clueless they are they say they hope Bernie goes Green. stevenleser Jul 2016 #131

They're still talking about BS taking the nomination at the convention. Just insane. Squinch Jul 2016 #138

K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #30

K&R! gademocrat7 Jul 2016 #32

I am just glad DU does not have a whole forum dedicated to itsrobert Jul 2016 #39

I can only think of a hate site having such a forum. joshcryer Jul 2016 #48

...and try to find the lil-bitty area that covers Trump! Her Sister Jul 2016 #187

Big time K&R! NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #42

:-) Well said. riversedge Jul 2016 #55

K&R! ^^^This!^^^ Spot ON. SHAME on them all! How can any reasonable Liberal or Progressive BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #57

Wolf Blitzer is having a cow. He is digging and riversedge Jul 2016 #58

I don't consider it a victory bigwillq Jul 2016 #60

The story is thoroughly exhausted without an indictment. Zynx Jul 2016 #70

DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2016 #69

IMO, it would be better not to gloat. Vinca Jul 2016 #71

Compared to that smug certainty that she would be indicted, meh. Zynx Jul 2016 #72

We'll see. I fully expect Trump to start running on the promise of bringing charges. Vinca Jul 2016 #73

Sure, as long as the judge doesn't have 'Mexican Heritage' emulatorloo Jul 2016 #75

You think a candidate vowing to throw the opposition in prison makes for an attractive geek tragedy Jul 2016 #93

Is Trump the new indictment fairy? JTFrog Jul 2016 #133

Did I say that? No. Vinca Jul 2016 #162

So why help them? Cordy Jul 2016 #205

K&R! stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #76

Yeah, when have you ever been gracious AwareOne Jul 2016 #78

That seems personal. Do you have something you want to say to me? Zynx Jul 2016 #87

The rightwingers who were cheering for an indictment don't deserve any MADem Jul 2016 #79

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #86

Oh, trust me. It hurts. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #88

I saw that place too rbrnmw Jul 2016 #98

Yea, I saw it too CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #99

It amazes me that posting links to that site on DU doesn't violate the new rules. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #102

Huge K&R CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #100

I agree. But note, I had a post hidden supposedly because I was rehashing primary. Hoyt Jul 2016 #101

They're hurting on Jack Pine Ridiculous n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #103

Heads: Squinch Jul 2016 #106

Skinner needs to take a long hard look at those usernames. joshcryer Jul 2016 #107

^^^ THIS ^^^^ n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #108

+1000. Hortensis Jul 2016 #110

I'm shocked he allows it to be linked from here. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #130

It's like a thousand other conspiracy shitstorms that proved to be nothing. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #105

Agreed! That Comey guy has been investigating the Clintons for decades, so that R B Garr Jul 2016 #118

There was never going to be an indictment because no laws were broken Gothmog Jul 2016 #122

Kicking in support of every word. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2016 #124

Lining up in complete agreement. n/t VOX Jul 2016 #129

K & R and A-FREAKIN'-men. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #134

With you 180%. Zynx Jul 2016 #139

With you too!!! Her Sister Jul 2016 #189

Another sore winner corkhead Jul 2016 #141

Yup! If the pro-indictment crowd hadn't been so obnoxious, this could have been avoided. Zynx Jul 2016 #150

Glad I will not have to hear PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #143

Good Lord... Skid Rogue Jul 2016 #145

The vultures were circling for months now, but their prey escaped to live another day. Beacool Jul 2016 #147

Wow! Thanks Zynx.. Damn straight! Cha Jul 2016 #148

nothing was proven wrong, it just isnt inditable at this time, take a deep breath, but do larkrake Jul 2016 #154

The wishes of the indictment wishers were not granted. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #175

This Bernie supporter never thought she would or should be indicted. Vattel Jul 2016 #160

My suggestion to you is to que the video of the entire press conference. peace13 Jul 2016 #178

Ultimately, the only thing that matters is if there were criminal charges or not. Zynx Jul 2016 #199

So in other words you admit to being a poor winner, which is worse than a sore loser. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #184

Did you lose something! Her Sister Jul 2016 #186

tossing in your $0.02? hobbit709 Jul 2016 #188

It's a fucking discussion board. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #192

They were asking if you feel like you're on the losing side of an argument. Were you hoping for an Zynx Jul 2016 #198

I will not apologize for gloating in the faces of people who wanted our candidate to go to prison. Zynx Jul 2016 #197

Boojah! Her Sister Jul 2016 #190

+1000 Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #193

Right-wing Republicans are very, very sad today. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #194

I agree. K&R betsuni Jul 2016 #200