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2016 Postmortem

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Koinos

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Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:37 PM Aug 2016

The New Yorker: "Trump and Putin: A Love Story" [View all]

"Trump and Putin: A Love Story: The attraction is mutual, but history shows who’s really using whom."

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-and-putin-a-love-story

This is an excellent account of Putin's rise to power, his desire to restore the influence and power of the Soviet Union, his opposition to the policies of the Clintons and President Obama, and the advantage he sees in Trump's being elected president.

About Putin's ambitions for spreading Russian influence:

It is safe to say that, on a strictly intellectual level, Donald Trump understands little of this. In recent weeks, he has made it plain that he is ignorant of the basics of contemporary Russian and geostrategic reality. He has declared NATO “obsolete” and has suggested that he might do away with Article 5, which promises that an attack on one member state is an attack on all. He makes the threat not because he is interested in reassessing anything as complex as global-security strategy but, rather, because not every member state is forking over its dues.


On Trump's and his associates' economic ties with Russia:

Some analysts have said that Trump’s affection for Putin is based mainly on his own, and his circle’s, economic interests. Paul Manafort, his campaign manager, profited immensely as an adviser to Viktor Yanukovich, the pro-Russian (and now deposed) leader of Ukraine. (Manafort has also worked as a lobbyist for other dictators, including Mobutu Sese Seko, of Zaire, and Ferdinand Marcos, of the Philippines.) Carter Page, one of Trump’s foreign-policy advisers, has longstanding ties to Gazprom, a pillar of Russia’s energy industry. Donald Trump, Jr., has made it plain that the family has pursued opportunities in Russia for decades. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” he said, in a speech in 2008 to a real-estate conference, according to the Washington Post. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” The public would have a more detailed sense of this if Trump were ever to release his tax returns.


Putin sees Trump as a useful idiot:

Vladimir Putin is a cunning and cynical reader of his adversaries. He notices that Trump does not know the difference between the Quds Force and the Kurds, or what the “nuclear triad” is; that his analysis of Brexit was based in part on what might be good for his golf courses in Britain; that his knowledge of world affairs is roughly that of someone who subscribes to a daily newspaper but doesn’t always have time to get to it. Overwhelmed with his own problems at home, Putin sees the ready benefit in having the United States led by an unlettered narcissist who believes that geostrategic questions are as easy to resolve as a real-estate closing. Putin knows a chump when he sees one.


A long article, but well worth the read. Another reason why it is dangerous to elect a moron as president.
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love, exciting and new ... napkinz Aug 2016 #1
Those are great PatSeg Aug 2016 #4
a few more ... napkinz Aug 2016 #11
+1 PatSeg Aug 2016 #13
#ComradeTrump & Republican Cronies need our pity* RapSoDee Aug 2016 #2
Great quote! PatSeg Aug 2016 #5
Russia got it's trolls trying to deflect this but alas this will Iliyah Aug 2016 #3
The author, David Remnick, supported the Iraq War. Wilms Aug 2016 #6
What a brilliant way for Putin to get back at the U.S. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #7
Putin knows that a "President Trump" would destabilize the United States... Koinos Aug 2016 #9
Exactly. I agree with everything you said! AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #16
He is, for Putin, the very definition of a annabanana Aug 2016 #8
What gives me nightmares is the combination of a useful idiot president and an idiot Congress. Koinos Aug 2016 #10
no kidding annabanana Aug 2016 #12
No place to run from that either. Koinos Aug 2016 #15
Trump is a russian mole workinclasszero Aug 2016 #14
Nothing like having a president who defaults on debts to oligarchs. Koinos Aug 2016 #18
I guess that's what happens when an entire political workinclasszero Aug 2016 #19
Authoritarians are attracted to tyrants. Koinos Aug 2016 #20
Funny how all those baggers that swear they love the constitution workinclasszero Aug 2016 #21
There is a rotten part of each of us that longs for being told what to do. Koinos Aug 2016 #22
Russia, Russia, Russia, that should be our focus. His most corrupt actions are with Russia TeamPooka Aug 2016 #17
the meat of the matter DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #23
I agree. Koinos Aug 2016 #24
Trump loves him some Putin Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 #25
In all fairness to Trump, you could link Putin to every right-wing policitian in Europe pampango Aug 2016 #26
Excellent article BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #27
If Trump still subscribes to a daily newspaper I bet he has someone look for articles about him tanyev Aug 2016 #28
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