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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: "Maybe you shouldn't have fucked with the president so much." [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)88. No undoing the gerrymandering until 2020. To undo it in 2014 takes turnout.
The same work to get the turnout in 2012 will be required on the ground all of the months until November 2014. Giving up only guarantees another Tea Party victory as in 2010. Only turnout overcomes big money.
Nothing is hopeless with sufficient turnout. And it has to be stressed that it's the agenda, not the charisma of politicans that we must be vote for, unless we think that we live in American Idol land. Which we don't.
We must prepare for 2020 in 2013, just the way the GOP prepared for 2010 in 2000. If we want it we have to do it. PA did it in 2012 and they can do it again.
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Of course the media won't mention it. That would make their *owners* look like idiots...
freshwest
Nov 2012
#55
Any examination of the 5 or so owners of media show them to be anything but 'liberal.'
freshwest
Nov 2012
#69
The President's budget got the votes of 65 million Americans on Nov. 6, Boner!
SunSeeker
Nov 2012
#6
That ANY Republican would presume to be even loosely acquainted with "reality" ...
TahitiNut
Nov 2012
#7
$1.6 trillion in taxes is 'a raid on the castle and taking back what they took.'
freshwest
Nov 2012
#32
Everytime they've fucked around on this, the tax amount goes up along with the stimulus funds.
freshwest
Nov 2012
#56
"The only thing they understand is being shown the door." - Well, I think a little
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#80
Not gonna be easy what with all the gerrymandering. I live in PA and despite being a blue state
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2012
#82
I'm not optimistic because, as Rachel Maddow explained last night,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2012
#89
There is no fiscal cliff, it's a fiscal bluff; really it's budget control,
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#24
Mr. Obama and Harry Reid skillfully maneuvered the Republicans into a trap of their own making.
Ikonoklast
Nov 2012
#26
I don't think it is a win - win but isn't it ironic how the GOP may have to live with the answer
Filibuster Harry
Nov 2012
#40