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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:03 AM

1. I am with you.


I recall all too well how she was inevitable in 2008, so I keep on wanting to ask her supporters why we are not in the last part of her second term. When I do get a chance to ask that question, they get very defensive. I've actually been banned from her forum because I had the audacity to say things not 100% in her favor. And then they have the gall to complain in the rest of DU that she is ever criticized.

I see many, many problems with her candidacy. Some have to do with why I don't support her, such as her complete disconnect with ordinary Americans. Flat broke when they left the White House? Really? Did she ever have to choose between paying the electric bill or the water bill? Or buying groceries vs buying medicine?

I have another, completely separate problem with her supposed inevitability. She was inevitable in 2008, as I recall. So remind me again why we are not in the waning years of her second term.

Someone else on DU pointed out a bit ago that she has never actually won a contested election. Both of her Senate races were against opponents who were total jokes. And even though in 2000 she was essentially a carpetbagger, her opponent was a joke. Same in 2006. But when she ran for the Presidential nomination in 2008, she did incredibly poorly, and the stories of her disfunctional campaign were legion.

Her early Republicanism absolutely does not matter, and I get as impatient with those who bring it up as any dedicated Hillary supporter. Benghazi, meh. Vince Foster, who cares. The same with Bill's indiscretions. Although those latter two will be great fodder for Republicans if she does get the nomination. Too bad, because she's much more (whether you support her or don't) than that.

More to the point, we should NEVER be having an appointed candidate, other than a sitting President. If Hillary Clinton wins the nomination by campaigning through the Primary season, then good for her. I'll be horrified, but I'll still vote for her. I cannot begin to imagine the Republicans nominating someone I'd prefer over her. Not very likely they'd nominate Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, so I can safely say I'll vote for the Democrat.

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