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In reply to the discussion: Joe Biden: ‘Abortion Is Always Wrong’ [View all]restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)95. i wish dems could stay on point on this
all dems should be hammering home the point that if we had better and universal health care, more widely available contraceptives, an economy where women did not have to work three jobs to barely be able to feed their one kid and stay with deadbeat losers becsuse they have no financial freedom, where male dominance and rape is always condemned as the evil it is, that abortions would drop even further because the factors leading to those pregnancies would have been dealt with.
imo we have the financial, medical, and technological capability to make abortion necessary to save a woman's life but otherwise obsolete (because unintended pregnancies could almost disappear).
we just need the collective will. and that is what the gop doesnt get...they want to stop (most) abortions? give women proper health care and contraception, and the ability to be financially stable, and lock up the losers who rape and exploit them. lets start there, misogynistic assholes.
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ALWAYS wrong? Even in the case of rape?!? Very disappointed to hear this from Biden.
Metric System
Sep 2015
#1
Biden is a Catholic, so yes he believes teeny humans are created at conception
magical thyme
Sep 2015
#105
He said that's his belief but he doesn't believe in imposing that on others . . .
brush
Sep 2015
#109
I'm aware of that. Was responding to Metric's surprise at his personal beliefs.
magical thyme
Sep 2015
#164
Joe, you might not always be wrong, but you're sure as hell wrong this time. nt
valerief
Sep 2015
#2
Because his opinion demonstrates ignorance. Some pregnancies are destined, for example, to cause
JDPriestly
Sep 2015
#75
I am not surprised about the "I don't want to impose my religious views on others" statement
HereSince1628
Sep 2015
#88
The OP title is the title of the article. Before saying "Biden is for a woman's right to choose,"
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#16
The article linked which is the article quoted which is the title of the OP
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#29
WTF? "Bernie...had his daughter (his only biological child) by a third woman out of wedlock"
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#21
And Bernie had a son "out of wedlock" so they're not even smearing him correctly.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#103
That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Huckabee, take note.
Metric System
Sep 2015
#14
Biden will not impose his personal beliefs on the nation...separating religion from policy is good.
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#151
I guess just attacking Clinton using RW rags is not good enough for some. All Democrats are targets?
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#156
What RW rag? On the issues? His own signature on the HLF amendment?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#157
Yes it fucking well does when he tells women that "abortion is always wrong".
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#12
It is meant for me, he's telling women that our choice to abort is always wrong.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#23
No, you're just in here lecturing women on their rights and how they should feel about them.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#65
Yes we are, and his lousy judgmental opinion about women and abortion.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#73
Joe Biden was in the Senate over 20 years and he never sponsored a bill to
underthematrix
Sep 2015
#13
Yes, how dare we uppity women get hysterical over a piddly thing like reproductive rights?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#31
NEWSFLASH: HE DID SIGN A BILL DEPRIVING US OF OUR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS:
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#150
He sure as hell doesn't agree with the pope about women's and lgbt rights.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#70
he's allowed to have his own personal opinion if he's not legislating it, but I'm not sure how it is
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#32
That's not a strong pro-choice stance; I would NOT trust him to protect women's lives
Liberty Belle
Sep 2015
#40
Bill Moyers has a great discussion on the effect of the Hyde Amendment on poor women
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#47
The National Right to Life Committee has a link to a document showing Biden voting to overturn Roe v
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#42
Unlike Hillary who has always been pro choice and will protect a woman's right to chose.
Dawson Leery
Sep 2015
#52
Still, Clinton is rated 100% by NARAL and Biden is rated 36% by NARAL (I'm a Sanders supporter so
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#60
Your fundamental claim is that National Review is lying about Biden's record and beliefs
jeff47
Sep 2015
#136
And I appreciate you and every other one of our other allies who fight alongside us.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#141
He is a man and does not understand the. Issues that can arise in pregnancy.
JDPriestly
Sep 2015
#67
Lots of RW rags are being elevated to high status at DU...where else to gather the tripe?
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#154
Are you denying he said that? Or signed the amendment to overturn Roe v Wade?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#169
Aren't there some GOP candidates you could attack instead? There are a few around if one pays
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#171
No, I'm fine with calling out fake allies who think Biden's votes are acceptable. Thanks.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#172
No one doubts your sincerity! It is just the aim that seems to be all in one direction.
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#173
Aiming only at Democratic Party candidates...like I said, no one doubts the sincerity.
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#175
I'm talking about you and others who lecture women on what we should be outraged about.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#176
Now the twist to unrelated personal accusations? It is a familiar pattern we all notice.
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#177
But Biden is far from 100% pro-choice so his opinion does seem to affect his voting on reproductive
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#97
I respect him for standing up for SSM, but shaming women like this is unacceptable.
LostOne4Ever
Sep 2015
#86
He's saying he would never impose his personal beliefs on other people. I have no patience for
Squinch
Sep 2015
#89
Except he has only a 36% rating from NARAL, he has repeatedly voted for the Hyde Amendment, he voted
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#90
I never knew this. I took him at his word about not imposing his beliefs, but it seems that his
Metric System
Sep 2015
#190
I am of the opinion all religion is fear based don't do x or be punished by deity
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
Sep 2015
#98
This is why he sometimes gets in trouble because he speaks before he thinks.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#104
Your words: "Sure sign that one camp is about economic justice, equality for the rest be damned."
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#122
Thank you for showing the quote that proves your claim had no merit. I appreciate it. nt.
NCTraveler
Sep 2015
#123
Thank you for providing a quote showing how some will say anything to smear Bernie's supporters.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#124
I agree his personal views are irrelevant if they don't affect his votes, but his Hyde Amendment
Attorney in Texas
Sep 2015
#192