Trying to assault me with imagery of the death of an innocent black man is not fair. (Reply #55)

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:25 AM

bravenak (34,648 posts)

55. Trying to assault me with imagery of the death of an innocent black man is not fair.

I am black. Why do you as a white person need to use such vile imagery to attack me with? Do you do that with white people too? That is problematic. I am telling you that YOUR approach is off putting. You are my point of contact with the Sanders campaign right now. This is not a way to help him.
You are using a disabled murdered black man as a cudgel AGAINST a black woman. How is that helpful? It makes my stomach turn and want to not listen to you further. It is the exact wrong approach to take if you go round trying to lure black voters to Sanders. It's like republicans screaming about planned parenethood killing black babys. Upsetting and brings nobody in.

Sanders delivery is pessimistic. He is not a creative thinker, just stolid, not imaginitive or hopeful.
He had peopke going around pushing black voters AWAY and making him look bad. Lack of charisma. Rarely touches people. Things like that. Oh, turns race issues into money issues.

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135 replies	Author	Time	Post
Sanders: I would lose if election decided by black voters [View all]	RandySF	Nov 2015	OP
With good reason.. hey where's your buddy Cornel West, bernie?	Cha	Nov 2015	#1
Professor West is harmless compared to HRC sucking up to Netanyahu	Truprogressive85	Nov 2015	#2
Calling Dr West Calling Dr West.. he's bernie's go to.. where is he when you need him.	Cha	Nov 2015	#3
So you are a Bibi fan ? so you rather war than peace	Truprogressive85	Nov 2015	#4
Yeah, get out there and get that African American Vote.. bernie.. make sure you take your pal	Cha	Nov 2015	#5
Well i'm proud to be black and voting for sen. sanders	Truprogressive85	Nov 2015	#6
Bernie is as honest as the day is true.	Luminous Animal	Nov 2015	#7
He sure is	Truprogressive85	Nov 2015	#12
Fact checking sites indicate he is no more honest	BainsBane	Nov 2015	#127
Hillary is overwhelmingly popular wtih Americans.. I love it!	Cha	Nov 2015	#8
What are you talking about? Have you wandered on to the wrong thread???	Walk away	Nov 2015	#104
If the primary were held tomorrow Bernie would simply lose!	Walk away	Nov 2015	#105
Off topic, but since you brought it up....like it or not (and Clinton probably does NOT like it)....	George II	Nov 2015	#119
HRC doesn't like it ?	Truprogressive85	Nov 2015	#122
Once again, He's the leader of Israel and Israel is one of our closes allies.....	George II	Nov 2015	#124
if you say so	Truprogressive85	Nov 2015	#125
Not standing by you.	Luminous Animal	Nov 2015	#10
He's speaking truth to power, as he always has. nt	mhatrw	Nov 2015	#24
BS can have the one who hurls racist slurs at President Obama. Hillary has John Lewis..	Cha	Nov 2015	#25
Yes, Hillary has Obama & Lewis & Bibi & Obamacare & drone strikes & Wall Street & the TPP.	mhatrw	Nov 2015	#27
Haha! Hillary has the great civil rights leader, John Lewis!	Cha	Nov 2015	#30
Hillary Clinton boasts of support from "white Americans"	azurnoir	Nov 2015	#97
BINGO!!	George II	Nov 2015	#120
Your continued smearing of Sanders and his supporters does nothing	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#133
Not before she did.....	VanillaRhapsody	Nov 2015	#70
What a poor poor attitude.	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#130
Another half truth.	Fearless	Nov 2015	#9
What else would you expect	Art_from_Ark	Nov 2015	#13
Uhhh yeah	RandySF	Nov 2015	#22
And elections are not bring held today	ibegurpard	Nov 2015	#11
Thank you	paul ofnoclique	Nov 2015	#20
AA voters, especially women, are the most loyal core voters for the Democratic Party.	Starry Messenger	Nov 2015	#14
But bernie has Dr Cornel West who makes racist slurs against President Obama. that didn't	Cha	Nov 2015	#15
Certainly not!	Starry Messenger	Nov 2015	#16
Another example of bernie in a bubble. Who does that to court the African American vote?	Cha	Nov 2015	#17
That really surprised me too, though it may be a generation gap	Recursion	Nov 2015	#18
It is sad.	Cha	Nov 2015	#31
One Educated Black Man Calling Out Another Educated Black Man That Gave Us TPP	cantbeserious	Nov 2015	#28
I HOPE you do not approve of racial slurs.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#35
Bravenak, you truly disappoint me	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#135
"if the election were held today"	JI7	Nov 2015	#19
Civil Rights Icon John Lewis supports Hillary for President.. Thank you Rep Lewis!	Cha	Nov 2015	#21
"If the elections were held today, just among the African-American vote, we would lose."	mhatrw	Nov 2015	#23
Yeah, BS is "struggling to gain traction" all right. Smooth move uniting with Cornel West.	Cha	Nov 2015	#26
One Educated Black Man Calling Out Another Educated Black Man That Gave Us TPP	cantbeserious	Nov 2015	#29
There is nothing "Educated" about racial slurs. nt	SunSeeker	Nov 2015	#96
Criticism Of A Sell-Out President By An Educated Man Is Spot On Target	cantbeserious	Nov 2015	#110
Racial slurs are not "criticism." They are offensive attacks on an entire race.	SunSeeker	Nov 2015	#121
IF THE ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY. Flock the Hill and all deceivers.	merrily	Nov 2015	#32
I'm glad Bernie admits to having an African American Problem.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#33
How would you help him more than his press secretary, Symone Sanders?	jfern	Nov 2015	#37
By ACTUALLY telling him the truth.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#40
Bernie doesn't have BIll's charisma	jfern	Nov 2015	#47
Then he needs to find an edge.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#50
Bernie's go to .. Cornel West's racist slurs against President Obama..	Cha	Nov 2015	#34
I saw people making many excuses for that language.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#36
Oh yeah, what do they care? I'm mean really.. after the way too many treated #BlackLivesMatter	Cha	Nov 2015	#39
Treated me the same.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#43
Exactly, because you tried to tell them to stop treating them that way.. then they went after you	Cha	Nov 2015	#45
They don't even remember treating ME like that. Many think I was bullying ALL of THEM.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#52
Of course they do. Orwell lives in their funny little bubble.	Cha	Nov 2015	#54
Well it looks pretty silly.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#56
Well many of your friends do remember	rbrnmw	Nov 2015	#109
It was. Glad you have a memory.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#111
Were people condoning his exact language?	jfern	Nov 2015	#41
Didn't I just say that?	bravenak	Nov 2015	#42
I think most people would agree that he should have used better language	jfern	Nov 2015	#49
Using the word 'but' is the thing. You could have ended it at the word language.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#51
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#80
I am a person of color. The darkest color. You sure are busy.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#82
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#84
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#85
What are the excuses for the horribly racist treatment recieved by blacks after Netroot and Seattle?	bravenak	Nov 2015	#86
Too busy.	Cha	Nov 2015	#99
So would AA voters. More Wars on Some Drugs. More income inequality	eridani	Nov 2015	#38
Are you AA? Because I see you know what is best for us at all times and I find myself frustrated.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#44
Share the results of your survey demontrating that African Americans don't want--	eridani	Nov 2015	#46
I did not say they don't want things. But your approach is very paternalistic and suffocating.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#48
In what way is Sanders delivery on issues problematic?	eridani	Nov 2015	#53
Trying to assault me with imagery of the death of an innocent black man is not fair.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#55
Yes--I do do it with white people, many of whom were pretty pissed off about it in 1992.	eridani	Nov 2015	#57
When you do that. We stop listening.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#58
fine. Go ahead and vote for more prisons n/t	eridani	Nov 2015	#59
That was passive aggressive.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#60
I don't do poll threads or psychoanalysis threads n/t	eridani	Nov 2015	#61
I noticed.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#63
What did you expect? This board has more than 260 separate issue groups	eridani	Nov 2015	#65
I expect people to want to know HOW to attract voters.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#67
Sanders has attracted more small donors than any candidate in history	eridani	Nov 2015	#68
That does nothing to help him with the AA vote or any other demographic.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#69
So, what was Obama polling at in November of 2007? n/t	eridani	Nov 2015	#71
So, where is Bernie's reserve of Black voters? And his delegates that Obama had?	bravenak	Nov 2015	#74
Obama didn't get superdelegates until he pulled ahead of Clinton	eridani	Nov 2015	#79
He got more endorsements by this time.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#81
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#62
You sure are busy.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#64
Oh the irony	Capt. Obvious	Nov 2015	#75
Ummm hmmm.	bravenak	Nov 2015	#76
Too busy.	Cha	Nov 2015	#100
Scared are you?	VanillaRhapsody	Nov 2015	#73
Obviously.nt	bravenak	Nov 2015	#77
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#83
Be careful here. Calling another DUer "deluded" is frowned upon	leftofcool	Nov 2015	#88
Somebody else musta thought so too..	Cha	Nov 2015	#101
You know thats against TOS right?	VanillaRhapsody	Nov 2015	#89
You are sounding pretty desparate. Nobody is listenting to you.	upaloopa	Nov 2015	#91
"Shot your wad?" Could you be a little more sexist?	Ed Suspicious	Nov 2015	#103
Oh the irony..	Kentonio	Nov 2015	#106
Well that says a lot doesn't it.	upaloopa	Nov 2015	#108
John Lewis Civil Right Icon Endorses Hillary! "I'm for Hillary Clinton in 2016"	Cha	Nov 2015	#66
and this time he means it	sahel	Nov 2015	#93
Don't be jealous and don't be dissing John Lewis.	Cha	Nov 2015	#94
you are mistaken	sahel	Nov 2015	#95
He switched because his district voted overwhemly for Obama	lunamagica	Nov 2015	#98
That's right I remember reading that. These people try to make something of it. Like he doesn't	Cha	Nov 2015	#132
Taken out of context!	Proserpina	Nov 2015	#72
How?	bravenak	Nov 2015	#78
He hasn't doen it in the last six months how is he going to do it in the next four?	upaloopa	Nov 2015	#92
So what's the plan? Trying to convince AA voters that economic justice will solve all their	upaloopa	Nov 2015	#87
He also needs Latino ,women and senior voters	FloridaBlues	Nov 2015	#90
No shit, captain obvious.	JaneyVee	Nov 2015	#102
Well, since many African American voters may have Stockholm Syndrome-	KittyWampus	Nov 2015	#107
He who fails to pick up the Obama coalition...	workinclasszero	Nov 2015	#112
Statement is probably factually correct.	Comrade Grumpy	Nov 2015	#113
"I'm just not well known in the African-American community"	postatomic	Nov 2015	#114
This was already posted	UglyGreed	Nov 2015	#115
Honest assessment. He knows where he is and what he needs to do, going forward.	Hiraeth	Nov 2015	#116
Why does Sanders think he would lose?	brooklynite	Nov 2015	#117
Good question.. Why does he? The pollster he hired told him so?	Cha	Nov 2015	#134
Hmmmm, seems like Sanders just dealt a whole deck of "race cards"!	George II	Nov 2015	#118
Well to be fair, it's not like his supporters on DU or	Blue_Tires	Nov 2015	#123
He had a path, up until Netroots and Seattle	BainsBane	Nov 2015	#126
KICK	DesertRat	Nov 2015	#128
Aside from Blacks,	Jamaal510	Nov 2015	#129
Thank you for bringing that up, Jamaal.	Cha	Nov 2015	#131

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