2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I don't trust Bernie [View all]Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)years issue. Bernie has always been a champion of LGBT rights, going back to the days when we were jailed for being gay. He was a champion all through the times you seem to have skipped, the horrible years of the dawn of AIDS when we had almost no friends at all. Where were you during all of that?
The idea that you say 'marriage, I was there he was no champion' to others who were there who have asked you why you focus only on marriage to define decades of LGBT struggles that included enormous global life and death issues which seem to slip your mind.
And yes, she did in fact defend DOMA and what Bill did. She excused it, explained it way using incorrect bullshit statements.
I already knew Bill and Hillary when DOMA happened. I was THERE.
So what you need to do is present facts, not verbose bullshit. You don't even seem to know the basics of LGBT history, it's all marriage to you. But you are 'near retirement' so obviously old enough to predate the marriage debate, to have lived through many other battles. Which for some reason you are unable to talk about.
Anyone on DU wants to know facts about that era, I can PM them links. Not characterizations from nonparticipants. History. You can not make that same offer. History calls you out.