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BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
56. You've gone beyond that
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Mon Jan 21, 2013, 05:12 AM - Edit history (1)

It's one thing for you to refer to yourself and other women as bitches in your offline life. If those women can tolerate your presence, that is their choice. But you have gone beyond that. You have come to HOF in an effort to deligitimate the views of those who are offended by deliberate, misogynist insults. I'm not referring to a random use of the word. I'm talking about my and other women's being directly and personally insulted as a bitch if someone disagrees with me. You may enjoy being around men who behave that way. I do not, and I have every right to make that clear.

We obviously live different lives. People I know do not use such language to insult others. I work in a university and most of my friends are academics. They may write articles about bitch and the discourse of misogyny, but they don't offend their friends or colleagues that way.

This site has a clear TOS that requires members treat each other with civility. I have a right to be confronted based on the content of my ideas rather than insulted based on gender. I fully resent your attempts to deny me that right. I would never presume to tell you what should bother you in life. That you feel entitled to determine that for others is astounding.

What I've learned on DU [View all] BainsBane Jan 2013 OP
you use that word more than anyone I ve seen on DU. in fact I hardly ever, if ever, see msongs Jan 2013 #1
See post 7. redqueen Jan 2013 #13
I've been here almost 10 yrs and rarely see anything alittlelark Jan 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #3
thanks for the support BainsBane Jan 2013 #4
Plus a gazillion-bazillion. And add one more. Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #17
the absurdity BainsBane Jan 2013 #21
Here are examples that took five minutes to compile BainsBane Jan 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Phlem Jan 2013 #53
It's about the same at this point in time as I ever remember it; ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #5
witness the earlier responses in this thread BainsBane Jan 2013 #6
I just served on a jury for this thread JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #8
What was the jury vote? redqueen Jan 2013 #16
seriously. BainsBane Jan 2013 #20
Rq JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #23
+1 about someone being vindictive because she told the truth. Squinch Jan 2013 #32
wow BainsBane Jan 2013 #18
You betcha JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #24
what a blast.... seabeyond Jan 2013 #25
See his dictation below - down thread JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #28
I, for one enjoy Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #9
agree. well said. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #10
Hello seabeyond! Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #12
hello helen reddy seabeyond Jan 2013 #14
;) n/t Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #15
Thanks, Helen and Seabeyond BainsBane Jan 2013 #19
I don't know if it has gotten worse on DU specifically, MadrasT Jan 2013 #22
Taking dictation JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #26
thanks to Giovanni and you too, JustanotherGen BainsBane Jan 2013 #27
:) redqueen Jan 2013 #29
thank you giovanni, for simply pondering seabeyond Jan 2013 #31
There are those of us who are proud as hell of being a bitch. Count me as one. I can & will TAKE patrice Jan 2013 #30
If you consider yourself a bitch, that's your business. Did you see the examples in post 7? redqueen Jan 2013 #33
I'm saying people CAN take such posters down themselves. & I approve of all of that being out in patrice Jan 2013 #37
Being taken down is precisely when they use such language BainsBane Jan 2013 #54
That's why I don't think most of it should go to jury. What happens should be seen. Embarass bad patrice Jan 2013 #57
You haven't responded to anything I've said BainsBane Jan 2013 #66
You insulted me. & You said that the fact that you work for a university makes you better than I. patrice Jan 2013 #68
OMG BainsBane Jan 2013 #70
well if you had taken that position to begin with BainsBane Jan 2013 #71
Well done! Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #84
Oh, gee. Thank you! BainsBane Jan 2013 #87
I don't think it is fine to stereotype. That's being a bad bitch, because someone is undercutting patrice Jan 2013 #39
Yeah, right. redqueen Jan 2013 #41
I didn't mean to imply that, but my point is that sanitized environments aren't good for people. patrice Jan 2013 #44
It's funny how we don't allow racists to be challenged to "learn" why using racist slurs is wrong. redqueen Jan 2013 #45
You know, because people have different ways of going about things that doesn't mean patrice Jan 2013 #47
Those examples are clear. redqueen Jan 2013 #48
I wonder if you could be more specific: "in-group use"? "taking it back"? I'm not sure what you are patrice Jan 2013 #50
Is there one and only one intolerance of misogyny? Does that intolerance have only certain patrice Jan 2013 #51
You've gone beyond that BainsBane Jan 2013 #56
I never told you not to be bothered about it. I said it is not good for the whole issue to HIDE it & patrice Jan 2013 #60
Again, you have ignored everything I have said BainsBane Jan 2013 #69
BTW, #47 was about what you called "tolerance for misogyny", not about racism. I think racism is so patrice Jan 2013 #49
There is nothing "natural" about racism and sexism BainsBane Jan 2013 #63
Yes! +1 n/t Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #85
It's possible they are martians too BainsBane Jan 2013 #55
Well, it IS the internet, a hall of mirrors of halls of mirrors & this board is kind of notorious patrice Jan 2013 #58
Oh..yay. Texasgal Jan 2013 #35
Thanks for this OP. I've seen some attitudes here that shock me. Squinch Jan 2013 #34
the rape posts were the worst BainsBane Jan 2013 #64
The only time I've been insulted here with one of those, it was done by another woman. mother earth Jan 2013 #36
I have found--and not just here but everywhere-- Laffy Kat Jan 2013 #38
i have too. that is why i never buy or let stand pointing the finger at rw men only. seabeyond Jan 2013 #40
Some "progressive" liberal men MadrasT Jan 2013 #42
LOL... evo psych... or as I prefer to call it... redqueen Jan 2013 #43
"intelligent design for atheists." exactly. perfect. thank you. i am gonna try to remember this seabeyond Jan 2013 #46
Given the gender voting patterns in this country... Deep13 Jan 2013 #52
we'd certainly be better of if that were the case BainsBane Jan 2013 #95
i supported obama, having to stand by hillary with the sexism, yet making clear i preferred obama, seabeyond Jan 2013 #98
This is what a "Bitch" is ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #59
Language doesn't work that way and you know it. That makes you a fascist, a word fascist. patrice Jan 2013 #61
Yes language does work that way. ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #62
a fascist? BainsBane Jan 2013 #65
Touched a nerve there I think ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #67
it's a lost cause BainsBane Jan 2013 #73
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #75
Of course I win. ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #77
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #78
Whoa ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #79
speaking of doggy porn BainsBane Jan 2013 #80
LOL ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #82
now i have to read half of this OP thread that i have not seabeyond Jan 2013 #89
Clinical overview of a dog's reproductive cycle = porn?! redqueen Jan 2013 #97
Right Wing extremists "also seem to believe in a type of authoritarianism" like that in this thread patrice Jan 2013 #72
I'm not worth your time BainsBane Jan 2013 #74
"... a strong resistance to authority from what they view as “outgroups,” namely blacks and women.." redqueen Jan 2013 #76
There is an ignore function reverend_tim Jan 2013 #81
I don't ignore. ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #83
Here's how I interpret the admonition to use ignore BainsBane Jan 2013 #96
Yes ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #102
do you use it on the small penis accusation that is 90% men? or is it just the very few seabeyond Jan 2013 #90
That small penis crap really is a stupid analogy. ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #91
it is so fuckin stupid. reality. it is the only real insult one can use on a white male. that is seabeyond Jan 2013 #93
Hah! Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #99
. ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #101
You completely miss the point BainsBane Jan 2013 #94
Ah, I did not wander into a feminist group, your post or crossed over to the "Latest" category. reverend_tim Jan 2013 #100
Latest? BainsBane Jan 2013 #104
YUP reverend_tim Jan 2013 #106
At the top ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #107
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Jan 2013 #108
I wonder how many males think it's okay caseymoz Jan 2013 #86
Here is a treasure trove of info BainsBane Jan 2013 #88
good point. i have discussed this when it became a mantra from men. i told them, call it out, alert seabeyond Jan 2013 #92
same as they tell us to fight for "men's equality too" if equality is what we want.... bettyellen Jan 2013 #109
There are men who take these issues seriously, redqueen Jan 2013 #110
well thanks, Red! And I agree it's all about the ego. What totally cracks me up though is the bettyellen Jan 2013 #111
LOL, yes, well women (in general) are still expected to do most of the housework redqueen Jan 2013 #112
when they ask us to do their clean up (of society) , I am completely unable to take them seriously bettyellen Jan 2013 #113
I've been here a long time. roody Jan 2013 #103
that explains why you've survived so long BainsBane Jan 2013 #105
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