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SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:29 PM Feb 2020

Bernie Sanders' disastrous answer on '60 Minutes [View all]

Here's the exchange between Sanders and Anderson Cooper on "60 Minutes":

Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?

Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


"Experts estimate that Sanders' major proposals would cost a staggering $60 trillion and would double the size of the government (while his tax plans fall $27 trillion short of paying for it). There's a reason that, when pressed on the cost of his plans, Sanders simply refuses to answer, saying he actually has no idea and 'no one does.'"

But Sanders once did admit the harsh reality of how his plans would be paid for during a debate over the summer. Here's the exchange between Sanders and NBC's Savannah Guthrie..:Sanders: People who have health care under "Medicare for All" will have no premiums, no deductibles, no copayments, no out of pocket expenses. Yes, they will pay more in taxes, but less in health care for what they get.

So, here's what we now know about Sanders' plans for America:

1) He isn't sure how much they will cost.

2) He isn't totally sure how he will pay for them.

3) It's likely they will be paid for by an increase in taxes on the middle class.

Whoo boy. Maybe Sanders is right that America is ready for a fundamental reorienting of how we value ourselves, our society and our money. But if he's not -- and this election winds up being like virtually every other election in which people vote on who is going to let them keep more of their money -- then Sanders (and Democrats by extension) have a big problem.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Interesting Sanders says MFA will cost about $30 Trillion over 10 years, Warren says it's $52 T. Hoyt Feb 2020 #1
Wow, I had not heard that $52T figure from Warren. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #3
The costs will be shifted from premiums copays Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #9
Everyone gets premiums, out-of-pocket costs, etc., will be converted to taxes, etc. Hoyt Feb 2020 #13
So when you wrote Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #19
Simple -- Sanders and Warren are trying to convince us we'll get all this stuff Hoyt Feb 2020 #21
Neither of them are doing that. Instead that is a standard rightwing talking point Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #33
It is when Warren says the middle-class and below won't pay a penny. That's Hoyt Feb 2020 #36
I wonder how much will be saved Turbineguy Feb 2020 #2
The suffering of dying for lack of care is incalculable. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #6
Maybe bunny planet Feb 2020 #4
Google: how much does the U.S. spend per year on healthcare? Democrats_win Feb 2020 #5
Also... Turbineguy Feb 2020 #8
That is not going to concern the average voter...they care about their situation and Sanders Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #14
he knows how much the F35s cost and he supported them anyway nt msongs Feb 2020 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #10
he will win neither. Deero Feb 2020 #12
He won't win Florida which has been trending red and he has a bad history with Castro. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #15
. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #22
last three months of polling n Florida disagrees with you uponit7771 Feb 2020 #26
Well since it's such a disaster I expect it will show in the S.C. and Tuesday primaries Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #11
The average American would pay 35-45% of their earnings in federal taxes stopbush Feb 2020 #16
Exactly. Bernie could have had this discussion with Vermont's law. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #18
The average american is paying around 5000/yr in out of pocket health care costs Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #20
No one believes Sanders on the cost uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24
Yes, I did. stopbush Feb 2020 #25
This scares the crap out of me C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #17
Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things? Sanders: No, I don't... jus damn uponit7771 Feb 2020 #23
Is it me or are a bunch of the Bernie supporters/loyalists as NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #27
The BS vetting gets more serious. empedocles Feb 2020 #28
People may be perplexed at those not caring. David__77 Feb 2020 #29
Sanders possibly does not want to say it will come from military budget delisen Feb 2020 #30
Sanders still won't be honest with the American people about how much his plans cost Gothmog Feb 2020 #31
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2020 #32
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #34
There BS goes again, promising things he can't deliver. onetexan Feb 2020 #35
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