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In reply to the discussion: Cuba Has Not Been A Bad Neighbor Or a Threat To the US -- Ever. There Is No Cuban Taint. [View all]HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)36. Oh cool. Thanks for clearing that up.
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ancianita
Feb 2020
OP
Do it. I'll happily pay. That's how wrong this whole wall of propaganda about Cuba has been.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#4
Know why? Because they're right wing pro-Batista descendents. And so are a lot of their kids, still.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#5
Great post w/ good points for discussing. Note that FL Dems now out-register GOP. That's something.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#135
I hear you. I know FL's voting habits since John the Pirate Roberts helped overturn the FL Supreme
ancianita
Feb 2020
#189
Except just that one time when they let the Russians bring their missiles to Cuba to attack the US
MaryMagdaline
Feb 2020
#6
You mistake the threat.JFK didn't negotiate with Castro.He negotiated with the real threat, RUSSIA.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#15
Regardless, Cuba allowed their property to be used as a launch pad. This did pose a threat
33taw
Feb 2020
#66
Wrong. They did it because OUR SANCTIONS gave them no trade choices for energy.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#72
Your "opinion" is "regardless," and so parrot establishment propaganda. This is a place for
ancianita
Feb 2020
#89
Is that all I presented? Wow. I better add a lot more in the op. Maybe add photos of both trips.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#110
USSR....for ONE. Hitler invaded USSR partly for the Oil, you know that right?
AncientGeezer
Feb 2020
#171
Castro wasn't around for the Hitler attack, so what's the Russian parallel to Cuba, again?
ancianita
Feb 2020
#174
It does matter. They, in fact, weren't a threat. Theirs was a no-choice allowing, not allowing.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#170
It's not sad that I've read history about Cuba. What's sad is what you think I should believe.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#175
I don't claim to know EVERY thing. But I know more than taint throwers in the Bernie arena.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#185
Not at all. Obama was right to open relations and we need to keep pursuing that route
MaryMagdaline
Feb 2020
#14
Have you been there? Talked with its people? How do you even know what you're talking about.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#26
Cuba is a one-party authoritarian state. You may be impressed with their show elections
tritsofme
Feb 2020
#32
I did, too. But Cuba isn't the Soviet Union by any stretch. Its whole history proves you wrong.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#44
What exactly is the defense of the Cuban government? We taught you to read and write and we gave you
MaryMagdaline
Feb 2020
#39
If YOU were energy sanctioned by your nearest neighbor for years, you'd go for help.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#8
Castro wanted Russia to attack the US early on. Not "years" later. Such horseshit.
oldsoftie
Feb 2020
#103
Link it. Don't start unlinked hostile and aggressive posts. Or you're spouting horseshit.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#119
Cool. That somehow convinces us that Russia never tells another country what to say in support
ancianita
Feb 2020
#148
Yeah, it's not like we trained and outfitted an army to invade and overthrow their government...
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2020
#42
Magazines are changing that. My Vanity Fair subscriptions show more beards. So you're cool.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#141
So the people who have fled Cuba, is that because they just didn't get it when it comes to Castro?
HarlanPepper
Feb 2020
#33
That's not the point. They did support getting rid of Batista, and the lawyer and doctor who helped
ancianita
Feb 2020
#114
So what are the thread rules, again? The personal greed comment was an oversimplified answer
ancianita
Feb 2020
#124
My point about how complicated the subsequent crossovers were. Make your points. Photos
ancianita
Feb 2020
#128
It was sneaky how they showed up in old clothes and delapidated boats to hide their greed. n/t
zackymilly
Feb 2020
#157
Stop coming in with the snark. The first wave were Batistas; 2nd & 3rd were their families.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#116
No, the people who fled were the rich 1% who along with Batista were ripping off ordinary
totodeinhere
Feb 2020
#168
Thank you, too. But it was more to bring to light what's good about Cuba than to support Bernie.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#48
Russia was his audience. Not Cuba. JFK knew who was using who in the Caribbean.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#50
After at least one invasion and a hundred assassination attempts from US. You think he might
ancianita
Feb 2020
#80
If Cuba is so great, why would they let a foreign country run a torture facility on their coast?
LonePirate
Feb 2020
#54
I didn't say "it's so great." I SAID it's not BAD. Look up the history of Guantanamo. It will show
ancianita
Feb 2020
#67
Including all the right wing Cubans down in Florida, not the working class Cubans in Miami & Tampa.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#77
So did I. We've come out of that with you playing the "perfect as the enemy of the good" high road
ancianita
Feb 2020
#85
You SAID: I lived through it. I answered you that I did, too. Now you wonder if I'm American??
ancianita
Feb 2020
#95
You want to explain your lived experience? Why you think that one experience is your reason
ancianita
Feb 2020
#130
No different or worse from anywhere else in the world. They DO go capitalist. They just expect
ancianita
Feb 2020
#92
And babies were left to die in all the countries we've invaded. I've heard broadcasts like that, too
ancianita
Feb 2020
#115
Nope. CBC Radio. Not given to propaganda. Canada had a relationship with Cuba back
applegrove
Feb 2020
#120
How is it then..Fidel died worth $900 MILLION and Cubans are rafting to the US?
AncientGeezer
Feb 2020
#160
Cuba's people have suffered because of their dictatorial leadership. Not us.
oldsoftie
Feb 2020
#101
We sponsored the first big dictatorships, sanctioned the last.Save us your blame the victim reaction
ancianita
Feb 2020
#126
They're victims of their own poor choices. Not my fault. Dictators ruin lives.
oldsoftie
Feb 2020
#145
Cube has been trading & currently trades with almost every country. YOU do some research.
oldsoftie
Feb 2020
#163
I guess we all forgot that Fidel allowed Khrushchev to stage ballistic missiles in Cuba
beachbumbob
Feb 2020
#112
Know how many missiles we have that can reach our targets in 5 minutes? WE'VE never been a threat?
ancianita
Feb 2020
#127
then did I mis-read the OP title of "never been a threat"? Is this a truth or a fricken lie?
beachbumbob
Feb 2020
#203
The FL GOP is Miami's Cubans. Up in Tampa, no. They're for Bernie.We can point out how hypocritical
ancianita
Feb 2020
#132
Thank you for your post, too. I'll have to check on the PR population of Miami.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#140
Wrong again. Batista boys were the dictators. There's no debate.You just can't tell the difference.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#152
"You say he was genocidal? A murderer?"...I didn't say it...you can't show I said it.
AncientGeezer
Feb 2020
#158
Fine. There couldn't possibly be distortions of memory or political agendas.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#164
No idea. Except that security for self and family can be costly, but who knows. He's dead, anyway.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#207
He got paid $900 million to be his own security? You don't believe that do you?
AncientGeezer
Feb 2020
#209
I did not say that. Attacking a dead man has nothing to do with Bernie's support of Cuba.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#210
Nice 20-20 hindsight criticism. The Cubans DID toss Batista. They used the lawyer, Castro, to do it
ancianita
Feb 2020
#173
That photo was not in any history book I read in h.s., college or anytime after. I read later that
ancianita
Feb 2020
#177
Donnie's a LIVING Russian tool Nazi dictator, tho'. Fuck Donnie who let the Russians in our house.
ancianita
Feb 2020
#186
So I guess that the criminals and mental health patients that Castro sent over in the boatlift
TexasTowelie
Feb 2020
#190