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cab67

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61. He appears to have learned the wrong lesson from 2016.

Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:48 AM

Mar 2020

He saw that his base was very loyal. So was Trump's. He appears to have thus reasoned that, with that base, he could make a case for a brokered convention. He therefore didn't see the need to stay in the Democratic Party and expand his base (or at least not antagonize Democrats).

He failed to learn other lessons:

- some of his loyal followers are very poor representatives.

- Other people would also learn from 2016. Trump did well in large part because the Republican pool remained divided after Super Tuesday. Democrats saw that and learned to consolidate as soon as possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I always try to find the positive in all our candidates.. but I am finally done [View all] Peacetrain Mar 2020 OP

I got there at the 2016 convention. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #1

I have been trying to give him credit by saying he needs to gather control of his hires Peacetrain Mar 2020 #4

Yea, I'm not "going high" anymore sorry Michelle, I love you but this is it. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #6

I know. I agree. "Going high" only makes it easier for them to continue to go low! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #26

His VEEP should play that role. joost5 Mar 2020 #54

That sounds like a good strategy to me! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #55

Don't worry. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #59

Have to say Harris would be perfect for that attack dog role. brush Mar 2020 #69

Same. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2020 #34

That was so incredibly disgusting to me! calimary Mar 2020 #68

I'll never forget when the cameras turned on him PatSeg Mar 2020 #73

me too. barbtries Mar 2020 #80

The goal isn't to help Bernie dansolo Mar 2020 #85

that's crazy. barbtries Mar 2020 #86

I started that campaign with a very high opinion of Bernie Codeine Mar 2020 #103

Agree 100% William769 Mar 2020 #2

Thanks!! Peacetrain Mar 2020 #5

Berners already saying they will stay home or Zoonart Mar 2020 #3

I don't doubt it a moment anymore... Peacetrain Mar 2020 #10

Joe is... Cradle of Liberty Mar 2020 #36

Oh sure..uh huh..ummm huh.. yeah sure. Peacetrain Mar 2020 #45

Wrong - 70% wants a form of universal healthcare. To say they want "Medicare for All" is false. George II Mar 2020 #47

+1 nt pazzyanne Mar 2020 #53

+1 ehrnst Mar 2020 #88

You are wrong...Joe wants everyone insured. ashredux Mar 2020 #49

Sure you can, and should The Mouth Mar 2020 #75

A bit hyperbolic IMHO. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2020 #79

If their job includes the function The Mouth Mar 2020 #81

People are voting. Bernie is losing. No conspiracy...just democracy ashredux Mar 2020 #52

Voters are voting for Joe. showblue22 Mar 2020 #72

Right... The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #76

no. barbtries Mar 2020 #82

That's not the point. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #84

a lot of his base are young BonnieJW Mar 2020 #78

Probably stay home, since they didn't even show up for Bernie in the primaries. JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #15

There are some states that if the voter indicates a write-in, TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #16

The ones saying that will never vote for a Dem unless Sanders is the nominee. Ace Rothstein Mar 2020 #25

I can find the positive Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #7

I agree with you totally, many supporters are good solid people.. Peacetrain Mar 2020 #13

Unfortunately, some are toxic in public, not just social media. JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #21

Yes, I'm aware of those types. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #23

The higher ups in his campaign are retweeting GOP shit...sorry. It is from the top down. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #40

Oh yeah, I agree it's coming from the top. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #41

The supporters here are not like that...and those JPR types won't vote for any Democrat...I think Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #65

JPR is just awful. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #66

I've said elsewhere BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #56

Honestly... It feels as though Bernie (and surrogates) decided a "scorched earth" strategy hlthe2b Mar 2020 #8

They did, and here's the reason, in my opinion. MontanaFarmer Mar 2020 #18

You're exactly right Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #67

Agreed. c-rational Mar 2020 #9

i want this primary to end today so we can get on with the business of beating trump* samnsara Mar 2020 #11

I feel the same way. His OFFICIAL subordinates are accusing Biden of having cognitive issues Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #12

I am so livid, I do not even know where to start. Peacetrain Mar 2020 #14

Is it a portent of what kind of people will be in his cabinet? Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #31

+1 DesertRat Mar 2020 #43

+1. It is officially sanctioned or tolerated dalton99a Mar 2020 #19

It might not matter after today Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #33

yeah, right... subana Mar 2020 #37

And, not surprising. Cha Mar 2020 #98

For sure, it is of his own making, not to have made any inroads with Black voters in 4 years, says OnDoutside Mar 2020 #17

I just want to say.. "What the hell??" Peacetrain Mar 2020 #20

It's all about ideological purity, where it's their way or nothing, and that goes as far as going OnDoutside Mar 2020 #39

Proof From Last Night's Fox Town Hall corbettkroehler Mar 2020 #22

I hope so...he has no path today or tomorrow...the best thing he could do as a patriot as get Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #30

"Fox News Audience Agrees With Bernie" Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #35

haha...I was thinking the same thing! subana Mar 2020 #42

I know what you mean...I can't even watch him anymore. He comes on I turn the TV off... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #24

Yes.. word for word.. Peacetrain Mar 2020 #28

Our candidate is getting beaten up by Sanders on the left and Trump on the right...very very bad Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #32

It's because they aren't really speeches, it's sloganeering. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #60

Same old same everytime...I can recite it...now of course he has added smarmy attacks on Joe Biden Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #63

I'll take condescending boomers over deplorable bros any day IronLionZion Mar 2020 #27

I have said this.... quickesst Mar 2020 #29

It is a Bernie party getting a free ride on the backs of Democrats dalton99a Mar 2020 #38

Yep.... quickesst Mar 2020 #90

I hate the lyingly edited ads Sanders is running non-stop against Biden in FL. lark Mar 2020 #44

"I'm Bernie and I approve this message" dalton99a Mar 2020 #46

There is no excuse. If he does not know what his hires are doing..then he is totally inept Peacetrain Mar 2020 #48

I am still concerned... TommyCelt Mar 2020 #50

Yep. Unca Jim Mar 2020 #51

If they can't or won't turn out for Bernie now... showblue22 Mar 2020 #70

I blame the overly exuberent supporters he's drawn. I hope he stays in the Senate. marble falls Mar 2020 #57

Bernie has started running ads in the Atlanta market Politicub Mar 2020 #58

He appears to have learned the wrong lesson from 2016. cab67 Mar 2020 #61

Try harder. mahannah Mar 2020 #62

Me too, sadly. I used to like him, I even voted for him in 2016, but he's driven me away. CaptainTruth Mar 2020 #64

He attacks Democrats in his speeches and on national TV, not just on Twitter dalton99a Mar 2020 #71

This is me also apnu Mar 2020 #83

This is still way better than 2016. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #74

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2020 #77

He can't call us ugly and then expect us to vote for him. LizBeth Mar 2020 #87

Good riddence. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #89

Amen and Hallelujah, Peacetrain! Cha Mar 2020 #91

I am so tired of the attacks on the person, .. policy be damned Peacetrain Mar 2020 #95

Well... I hope I was able to contribute a little... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #92

Amen to that!!! Peacetrain Mar 2020 #94

Is it just me BidenBacker Mar 2020 #93

Well I'm done with you too jimlup Mar 2020 #96

We've been through 4 yrs of Bernie beating up on democrats. showblue22 Mar 2020 #97

No it has been the reverse... jimlup Mar 2020 #100

Bernie thinks he's still in the fight so... showblue22 Mar 2020 #101

Don't care jimlup Mar 2020 #102

Who are you??? Peacetrain Mar 2020 #99