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still_one

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47. I think if Biden isn't in the race, Sanders will be the nominee through brokered convention, and I
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:56 AM
Apr 2019

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personally do not believe he can capture any red states.

It is not comparable to 2016, because the 10% of Sanders supporters who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, won't occur in 2020, at least I hope not, and that all Democrats will vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020 no mater who it is.

The problems shouldn't be MI or PA. Not sure about WI, that is a flip of a coin.

While all states are critical, the most important ones will be Florida and Ohio, and that is what it will come down to in my view.

I simply believe Biden has the best chance out of all our candidates in those states, and red states such as North Carolina and Virginia.

I think Sanders has the worst chance in my view.

I think the other potential Democratic candidates can do it except for Gabbard and Gilibrand, but it will be a steeper hill for them to climb

Anything can happen though

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I seriously don't understand how Bernie is so high in the polls... Shell_Seas Apr 2019 #1
I don't get Biden's appeal... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #23
I'm with you TCJ70. All repugs wants joe. too many negatives votes/events in the past. bonniebgood Apr 2019 #25
I am with you as well. CentralMass Apr 2019 #52
Thank you for articulating my thoughts on the subject. woofless Apr 2019 #60
This is how I see voting for Biden artislife Apr 2019 #63
It's totally a fear thing... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #67
I am undecided artislife Apr 2019 #68
Me either. Thank you. BlueStater Apr 2019 #66
I hear you. BlueWI Apr 2019 #75
I live in Central Florida. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #26
I'm in Florida, a little south west of Central Indygram Apr 2019 #48
Good to know, Indygram.. Mahalo! Cha Apr 2019 #69
Hi Shell_Seas RazBerryBeret Apr 2019 #28
Bernie got 1200 People on his recent stop in Macomb County, Michigan LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #51
um 538 doesn't do polls, they aggregate and analyze other polls. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #73
And.. LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #74
The OP says it's an older poll. So, before the recent rally. Demit Apr 2019 #76
Surprised only a third of Biden voters would go over to Bernie... would of thought more. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #2
In a way, I'm surprised Sanders got even that much. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #11
Agreed. As a Biden supporter Bernie is like last on the list. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #39
I'm surprised it's even 1/3 they are very different people. Agschmid Apr 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #49
I'm surprised the opposite way. lark Apr 2019 #57
Part of me wants to say we are fucked. Kath2 Apr 2019 #3
There are many in the Midwest whose lives have not improved, crazytown Apr 2019 #4
Exactly. Kath2 Apr 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #50
That's probably name recognition FBaggins Apr 2019 #5
I would say Biden & Bernie represent opposite ends of the Dem political spectrum, so yes. Demit Apr 2019 #12
75+ years old? crazytown Apr 2019 #14
Heh. They are the frontrunners there. Bernie has a slight edge :) Demit Apr 2019 #20
I agree karynnj Apr 2019 #62
He's running Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #6
538 actually asked doesn't run or implodes. crazytown Apr 2019 #7
What's holding him up is fundraising. His reputation is that he's not good at it. Demit Apr 2019 #16
Biden's running. If he didn't run, we will lose the GE still_one Apr 2019 #9
Nonsense crazytown Apr 2019 #10
Nonsense yes... but not defeatism FBaggins Apr 2019 #17
In 2008 we argued hammer and tongs about electability crazytown Apr 2019 #18
Absolutely. If there is a black swan event, anything can happen still_one Apr 2019 #40
It isn't quite that simple, at least in my case. I am looking for someone who I think can win the still_one Apr 2019 #43
If Biden doesnt run it will be a brokered convention, and Sanders will be the nominee, and still_one Apr 2019 #29
I think numerous candidates could beat Trump. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #15
The issue is the red states and the electoral college still_one Apr 2019 #30
Which states won by Hillary in 2016 do you think the Dems would lose... thesquanderer Apr 2019 #46
I think if Biden isn't in the race, Sanders will be the nominee through brokered convention, and I still_one Apr 2019 #47
re: your comparison to 2016 thesquanderer Apr 2019 #55
You make your points well, I just think right or wrong, the socialism label won't resonate well in still_one Apr 2019 #64
oh brother Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #19
Exactly, it is an opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Regardless, whoever the candidate is, it still_one Apr 2019 #38
If Biden is this country's last hope, then we're screwed. BlueStater Apr 2019 #21
none of them are "saviors" qazplm135 Apr 2019 #65
If he doesn't run then it will be Beto Indygram Apr 2019 #54
Harris is my second choice then everyone else is 3rd samnsara Apr 2019 #13
What would you think of a Biden/Harris ticket? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #33
That is my hope Bayard Apr 2019 #36
I'll be amazed if he doesn't run. MineralMan Apr 2019 #22
If Joe Biden decides not to run.... quickesst Apr 2019 #27
They don't have a mind of their own? still_one Apr 2019 #37
Of course they have a mind of their own.... quickesst Apr 2019 #70
It's a moot point though. Joe will run. still_one Apr 2019 #71
It's a hypothetical... quickesst Apr 2019 #72
Yup, same here still_one Apr 2019 #81
You didn't answer me quickesst Apr 2019 #82
It sure wasn't meant to be taken that way. Sometimes I am a little too direct, and it can be taken still_one Apr 2019 #83
I am relieved to hear it quickesst Apr 2019 #84
I am going to be less abrupt. You don't need to change a thing. We are on the same page still_one Apr 2019 #85
Almost all of Biden's supporters are Hillary voters BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #31
"Sanders is the second choice for many Biden voters, and vice versa" bloom Apr 2019 #32
I disagree. If Biden doesn't run, his supporters will go with Harris, Klobuchar, etc. Most of still_one Apr 2019 #35
the quote I posted was from the article bloom Apr 2019 #42
Thanks for that insight bloom. I should have read the OP more carefully. I agree it doesn't still_one Apr 2019 #44
I think what will happen is who cares until the debates, IMHO. SKKY Apr 2019 #34
If, ___ doesn't win loyalsister Apr 2019 #41
it would be a great day the the democratic party. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #45
Beto O'Rourke 2020 . stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #53
I have no idea who i will vote for if Joe doesn't get in. lark Apr 2019 #56
Biden's not my top choice, but those of us who don't want Bernie ecstatic Apr 2019 #58
If Biden opts not to run then Harris will come to the fore, unless the media comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #59
24 versus 15 or 16 is not that much of a lead and the 24 might reflect nearly the max karynnj Apr 2019 #61
zero chance a full third of Biden supporters would go to Bernie, it will never happen Celerity Apr 2019 #77
I also think that if Biden does not run, Stacey Abrams probably gets in for POTUS Celerity Apr 2019 #78
If he doesn't run... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #79
Get to know your candidates. All about Biden. rgbecker Apr 2019 #80
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