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August 29, 2016

We Should All Start Raising the Bar for Trump on Debates

Debates are an expectations game. You will find no one who hates Donald Trump more than I do.

But debates are like the New Hampshire Primary, it matters little who actually wins, but if you exceeded expectations. I'm afraid if we set the expectation bar too low, Trump could appear the winner of the debates, even if he looks like a bumbling fool, if the expectations are set at rock bottom.

(1). There should be no more talk about him showing up. if we continue to act like he's not going to debate at all, he could appear to win the debate by just showing up. We can't allow the bar to be set that low. Any asshole can just show up.

(2). Let's stop with the fact that he's not preparing. If we establish that Trump's not prepared and then he knows where Canada is in relation to the United States, he looks smarter than he is. Instead, we should throw his words in his own face and raise expectations. "Donald Trump, by the results of all the instant polls, won every Republican Party Primary debate. He defeated some of the Republicans best politicians, like Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz. I expect that Hillary will have her hands full."

(3). We must lower the bar for Hillary. "She's in a difficult position. It's really hard to prepare for a debate opponent who has such an unorthodox style. Hillary will be lucky to get a draw under such unpredictable circumstances."

August 28, 2016

NAACP Explains Robert Byrd's Transformation

A sickening response from many bigots is that "Hillary is a bigot, too". Donald Trump and many other racists like him, point to Hillary Clinton's embrace of Robert Byrd, who once was an organizer for the KKK. I like to point out that Byrd renounced that allegiance 40 years before his death and voted in the Senate as a progressive on race issues. he apologized "a thousand times, and will continue to apologize" for his involvement in that organization. He rejected, apologized and spent a life time atoning. That position is what Hillary and the Democratic Party embraced, certainly not his misspent youth in that hateful group. I like to use Pope Benedict as an example. Benedict was a Nazi soldier in 1945. that certainly didn't define him. When people change and spend their lives contrary to the cause that one got involved 80 years before their death, in Byrd's case, we take them at their word and judge them by their actions.

Here's what the NAACP says on the subject:


<snip>“Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation,” NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous was quoted at the time of his death in June 2010. “Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.”

Senator Robert Byrd, by all accounts, had shifted away from the group after becoming “disinterested” in 1952 and had completely rejected the Ku Klux Klan by the time of his death, on several occasions, as reported by Snopes.

“I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times… and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”<snip>

Link:
http://www.inquisitr.com/3458749/naacp-robert-byrd-clinton-kkk-mentor-reflects-the-transformative-power-of-this-nation/

August 28, 2016

Does Anyone Know History?

I keep hearing on radio and seeing on TV this asinine assertion that African-Americans should not vote for Democrats because we're the party of slavery and Jim Crow. That all the segregationists were Democratic office holders.

No shitting. That was prior to 1964. Between 1964 and 1968 we threw all the fucking bigots out of our party. Lyndon Johnson signed the civil rights and voting rights acts in 1964 and 1965. Goldwater carried the 4 deep south states in 1964 and George Wallace took all the bigots into his third party in 1968 and he carried all the deep south states. Nixon even called it the "Southern Strategy" in 1972.

The bigots now vote nearly exclusively for Republicans. Look at the Congressional seats and where their districts are. Come on, what the fuck, doesn't anybody know history anymore. Do you think that David Duke and Steve Bannon are attracted to Donald Trump because the Republicans are still the party of Lincoln?

Give me a break, please.

August 26, 2016

Pertinent Question Involving Trump and Bannon

Steve Bannon is a black hearted conspiracy theorist who peddles racism, hatred, misogyny and bigotry. He is also the CEO of the Trump Campaign.

In the past, the winning candidate has always place his closest advisers in key positions in his cabinet or in critical positions around the President, such as Chief of Staff, Press Secretary or White House Counsel.

So, my question is this, is Donald Trump considering Steve Bannon for a crucial position in a potential Trump administration?

August 26, 2016

Great Description of Trump Flip-Flop-Flip on Immigration

Abigail Tracy from Vanity Fair had this to say to describe Donald Trump's positions on immigration;

"His position on immigration has gone from unenforceable to unintelligible."

August 25, 2016

Anecdotal Evedience of a Cracking Trump Base

I have a friend, probably my best friend. A 68 year old, white male who is semi-retired and very well off. He loved Trump from the beginning of his campaign. As you can imagine, we argued a lot. He actually admitted to me he's a bigot. Anyway, I would ask him, during the 16 months of the campaign, what the fuck do you like about this guy? His answer, "he's not a politician, he tells it just like it is. He doesn't speak from a teleprompter, he speaks right from his heart. He's not politically correct. He's self-funded, so he doesn't owe anything to anybody if he gets elected. He's going to throw all the illegals out. After all, Louis, what part of 'illegal' don't you understand".

I had lunch with him on Monday. I know he would never vote for Hillary, but I asked him "what do you think of your guy now?" "Woody Johnson, from Johnson and Johnson, and the owner of the hated Jets, heads up his political funding operation. He now reads exclusively from a teleprompter and his position on immigration is Jeb Bush's position. He's just another politician, except he's unqualified. You still with him?" His answer, "No. I'll be in Florida on November 8. I was going to get an absentee ballot, but now I'm not. As it turns out, he's no different than the rest of those bastards."

I was wondering, has anyone else here experienced the same type of interaction from Trump supporters?

August 24, 2016

Boston VC Firm on Web Site---F*CK TRUMP

A Boston area venture capital company headlined it's website with the F*CK TRUMP declaration, the Boston Globe is reorting. It holds that position because the company claims to have been founded by immigrants and the company abhors Doanld Trumps bigotry.



<snip>By Curt Woodward Globe Staff August 24, 2016

CRV, a venture capital firm founded in Cambridge, rejected Donald Trump’s presidential candidacy Wednesday in a provocative Web post that said the Republican nominee’s anti-immigrant rhetoric is “diametrically opposed to the core values of entrepreneurship.”

The 46-year-old firm, formerly known as Charles River Ventures, also said that it would begin paying for the US visas of entrepreneurs it backs.

In its blog post announcing the stance, headlined “F*ck Trump,” CRV cited its own immigrant roots, noting that its nine investment partners hail from seven different countries and speak eight languages. The firm’s homepage was given over to the headline in big white type against a red backdrop, with a link to its statement.<snip>


Link:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/08/24/venture-firm-crv-says-trump-anti-immigrant-stance-anti-entrepreneur/JD2ulVU3VsFeDpELWHfLdN/story.html

August 23, 2016

Clinton Regains Lead in Dubious LA Times/USC Daybreak Poll

The LA Times/USC Daybreak Poll is difficult to understand. For starters, it's mostly experimental, using a methodology that has never been used before. Let me see if I can explain it as I think I understand it.

It's a daily tracking poll. It has about 3,600 participants, all broken down into a 400 voter blocks for each day. The strange part about it is, that it's the same 3,600 voters polled straight through, including the same 400 for each day. As you watch the trend line, it seems to move from a pro-Hillary number to a pro-Trump number, over time. I think each block, just through chance, has become more a leaner to one candidate or another. Remember, the voters never change. Every 7 days, a block is sidelined for two days and then re-enters the poll for seven. If you look at the trend line in the link below, it bears out my thesis. Hence, a Trump lead of 2 points yesterday disappeared today, just as it did 11 days ago. The numbers swing wildly from Trump up 7 just after the Republican convention, to Hillary up 5 just days after the Democratic convention. Of the participants, there seems to be a Trump bias, as he always over performs all the national polls. When the average is Hillary up 8 points, she usually only has a 3 point lead here. When the national polls had the race about even just after the Republican convention, as I said, it had Trump up seven.

I used to use this poll to follow a trend line, but it's getting so it can't even be trusted for that. In the end, this is a useless poll, but we should understand it so we can respond when Trumpets refer to it. Today, Clinton has a fraction of a point lead.

Link;
http://cesrusc.org/election/

August 22, 2016

It's Easy for Me to Understand Trump's Efforts to Appeal to African-Americans

He's a bigot clumsily attempting to act like he's not one.

We have all seen this act in our personal lives. A white, male, 70 year old bigot, trying to convince himself that he's really not a bigot and trying to convince his contemporaries that everyone misunderstands him. In fact, we understand him all too well.

August 22, 2016

The Trump Flip Flop Reminds Me of a Local Election I was Involved In.

Let me see if this analogy works. My Dad was a City Councilor in our home town. He ran "At-Large", meaning city wide, in a city with 21,000 eligible voters at the time. The 5 top vote getters of the at-large council candidates would win. In this particular year, my Dad was running for re-election. The big fight in the town was that a long term, incumbent Mayor had a challenger in an equally long term State Rep.

One of the other incumbent Councilors decided to get involved in the Mayor's race, and endorsed the current Rep against the incumbent Mayor, and put a bumper sticker on his own car. I should note here that this was a 50-50 race at the time. All the Mayor's supporters turned against the councilor who took that stand. Shaken and politically frightened, he retracted his endorsement of the Rep and declared his neutrality in the race. Dumb move. In the first instance, he alienated everyone on one side and his corrective action alienated everyone on the other. In the end, he lost big. By the way, my Dad won one of those seats.

The point here is Trump has staked out the bigotry side of the immigration issue. Now he is measuring that he can't win with just the bigots. Conway, a pollster, has explained that to Trump. So now, Trump's going to try to pretend he's not a bigot by flip flopping on his bigoted anti-immigration stand.

In the end, he'll end up just like the City Councilor who tried to fool all of the people, all of the time. It just won't work. He'll end up losing both sides.

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