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That *might* be what he's holding out against

Being called a sell out.

From the very beginning he was called a sheepdog by Internet lefties. The minute he endorses that will come right back up.

Sanders needs to realize that the approval of his super secret indie leftist club is FAR less important than destroying Donald Trump and translating that into downballot races across the country.
Posted by forjusticethunders | Fri Jul 1, 2016, 06:06 AM (0 replies)

Well Brexit just got a bit personal for me

One of my friends in the UK just got verbally harassed for being Romanian.

But nope, it's not about racism and xenophobia. Totally just a means to strike a blow at the neoliberals!

Posted by forjusticethunders | Wed Jun 29, 2016, 04:26 PM (9 replies)

Economic nationalism isn't socialism or leftism and should not be supported by progressives

Favoring SOME members of the working class over OTHER members of the working class is reactionary. Just wanna throw this out there.
Posted by forjusticethunders | Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:51 PM (20 replies)

Brexit isn't exactly a topic relevant to AAs on first glance

But it's a good example of how aggrieved whiteness induces white people to vote against their own interests. The UK equivalent of nigger nigger nigger (as per Atwater) got abstracted into "sovereignty" and "bureaucracy" and "anti-establishment" and that's what drove this vote. This chart pretty much drive the point home.

This is the same stuff that drove all those votes for Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes, and is driving those Trump votes. Aggrieved whiteness in the face of "THOSE PEOPLE" starting to get the benefits of their society. So they, almost zombie-like, vote to ensure the benefits are reduced for everyone.

This is why white privilege is something akin to brainwashing.



(This will be part of a larger OP for GD)
Posted by forjusticethunders | Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:21 AM (21 replies)

Expectations for Hillary's Presidency

I'm curious because I personally have come to believe she is (and always has been) very progressive though she also has a lot of moderate and centrist support. So I kind of want to take a poll as to what our fine members expect for her in terms of the ideological bent of her Administration.

last two options are for a combination of completeness and hilarity
Posted by forjusticethunders | Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:47 PM (7 replies)

Let's talk about the "left" online media.

As you may or may not know, I originally supported Bernie. Actually, to me he was a compromise. I generally got my news from places like Alternet, Counterpunch, Common Dreams, and other lefty news outlets. Places like DailyKos and Salon were *too moderate* for me. Coupled with social media, that all added up to create a picture of Hillary and the Democrats as sellouts, turncoats, and "DINOs" for their "abandonment of liberal politics". I read a lot of books from Chomsky and the like (who I certainly still respect). But all of that added up to a distrust of normal politics, a feeling that the system was "rigged" (gee where have you heard that before), that both parties were corporate (see above), that the Dems didn't really care about helping working people, etc,etc. Also that the media is rigged and biased, won't cover "real issues" for their "corporate masters" etc etc. Sound familiar?

When you hear this stuff from the Berners, this is why. They're getting their news and information from those kinds of sources. But more importantly, it's the tone. Not only does it portray mainstream Dems as sellouts for everything that even smacks of compromise, but it allows them to paint the progressive things they DO get done as "insufficient", "pandering", "token" or all kinds of other delegitmizers. This fires up the outrage, makes people feel fearful and angry, and rakes in the big bucks. So when Hillary, who is "establishment" because she's devoted her adult life to the Party, runs for President and has broad support within the Party, she gets smeared as being "coronated". Her progressive accomplishments are thrown under the mud because they weren't "big enough". Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders gets to hold a bunch of rallies, make a few progressive noises, and use "socialist" as an edge-lord label, and suddenly he's a rebel.

The one thing about this primary is that it brought me out of the echo chamber. When you start following and getting involved in real world politics, you can't stay in the echo chambers. Lefty media doesn't tell you that Hillary marched in Pride in the 90s, or that conservatives exist to block even the faintest hint of left politics., or that changing the political culture takes years, hell decades of work even if you're on the right side (just ask black people and LGBT people) They tell you that there are millions of nonvoters in each state who would turn out for far left policy (debatable, and turnout is a LOT more than that) and that elected Democrats don't make the country Europe because they're sold out to corporations and only care about enriching themselves.

So in the long run, I think the kind of media we have on the "Left" will continue to be a problem going forward. Bernie Sanders gaining so much traction despite being heavily unqualified, lacking a mature temperament, not truly understanding movement politics and being and short on policy detail wasn't an accident, it was a product of misinformation from an "independent" media designed not to inform the public, but to outrage them to generate more ad buys. I know that from experience.
Posted by forjusticethunders | Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:24 PM (43 replies)

As in so many other things, Hillary works to improve her shortcomings.

I never thought I'd see the day I'd be praising Hillary Clinton's twitter game
Posted by forjusticethunders | Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:27 PM (0 replies)

For the short to intermediate term, you will need white votes to address income inequality

Measures to address this will, if properly and fairly applied, disproportionately help Black and Brown people, because they are poorer in many ways, largely due to racism. Thus, white racism (both overt white conservative racism and covert white "liberal" racism) will do two things to those measures


- Cause these measures to be rejected and voted down by white people (aka, what actually happened)
- Cause these measures to be watered down or unevenly applied to limit the disproportionate benefit these programs would present to a disproportionately economically insecure group.

Thus, systemic racism has to be addressed first to even make anti-inequality politically possible or executable.This is ONLY talking about economics, not social/legal/medical inequality that money can't really fix. This is where i say "you can give me a million dollars today and I might still get shot by a cop tomorrow"
Posted by forjusticethunders | Tue May 31, 2016, 02:26 PM (0 replies)

Good fucking lord, what the FUCK are these kids "overcoming"?

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Artz/status/737424913867243520

related comment thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4luc0q/sandernistas_tonedeafness_reaches_new_heights_as/
Posted by forjusticethunders | Tue May 31, 2016, 02:01 PM (41 replies)
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