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SmartVoter22's JournalTrump frees Osama Bin Laden spokesman
So now it's freeing terrorist spokespersons?
Claiming he was too fat to keep locked up because he may catch CoVid and treating a really fat guy is hard.
(Did they learn this treating Trump?),
Releasing Adel Abdel Bary may not fly with most Americans. Consider this guy was the official spokesman of Osama Bin Laden, who Trump did not kill, although his administration decided to free him so he can eat some more, in his $1Million London home.
I'm sure the Brit's are delighted. But hey, we're safer now?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9041319/Bin-Ladens-ex-spin-doctor-UK-freed-early-jail-hes-FAT.html
Trump spent $34,000 like nobody's ever seen!
Trump's $3 Million recount of Dane & Milwaukee County Presidential election results is over.
Conclusion: Joe Biden receives an additional 87 votes from the recount.
Trump just paid over $34,000 per vote for his opponent.
Such a deal, like nobody's ever seen.
Arrest all Trump's pardons on new felony charges.
This can be done with new charges, and I am sure that Flynn and the rest of Trump's traitor-class knuckleheads could be charged with new crimes, some of which were removed from the initial charges.
I would hope that the new US Atty General, does not follow the new President's advice to let it go in the interest of 'healing'.
We want our legal system to not have that kind of exemption, especially for politicians who engage in treason and cover-ups.
Once our DOJ is shown to not show favors, to fully engage in prosecuting criminals anywhere in the world, that America's best attribute- our justice system, will heal the national discourse.
Nobody is above the law. Nobody should suggest a former President or elected official be given any consideration other than complete prosecution. It would be messy for a few short years, but we would throw down that gauntlet.
If criminal behavior is found, you face the music. If judges show partisan favorites, then impeach them and prosecute them too.
America would eventually have candidates, so squeaky clean and fearful of any wrong doing, that we would have credible, trustworthy governance that would be the example for the world. Voters have remarkable power and can force change; in 2022 and 2024 and 2026. In those 6 short years we can replace every elected official in every office in every state, county and town.
Wisconsin Fed Appeals Court Amy Comey Barrett
Wisconsin has a highly partisan State Supreme Court.
Above that court is the 7th Federal Circuit Court of Appeals.
On Friday, SCOTUS appointed Justices for all US Federal Courts.
Wisconsin is now stuck with Barrett, who is not likely to provide normal Wisconsinites with a fair or impartial appeals process.
I see the new census-based voting district maps to continue to be more gerrymandered than any other state.
Here is the new list of SCOTUS Justices and the Federal Districts they now oversee;
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/112020zr_8o6a.pdf
Recount Observers Get Booted Out
We are full on into the ballot recounts in Dane & Milwaukee counties. Some of the news reports, from print newspapers are showing how the GOP observers are not what they claim to be. GOP, Dem, Independent... Citizens for a Tangerine Future?
Observers must register if they are representing a specific group, candidate or campaign. The main stream media is surely causing some of the Trump supporters to fess up as to who they support as an observer. The recount officials are getting fed up with them, as the links below report from the two county recounts. It's actually getting a bit funny when you read what these 'patriots' are doing.
Some observers are interrupting constantly, challenging everything on every ballot and some have been removed for repeatedly violating the rules like; not wearing a mask properly, not keeping distance from ballot tabulators which is only 3 feet, not the public recommended 6 feet and one was removed for physically pushing an official.
https://www.startribune.com/in-wisconsin-recount-trump-challenges-pile-up-slow-tally/573161611/
Some observers are falsely claiming to be independent observers. When asked by reporters, they actually admit they are there to support Trump and not 'independents'. So are they fraudulent observers? or just innocent poorly informed concerned citizens?
Observers do get a copy of the rules and have to sign in, regardless of who they represent.
The best stunt, so far, may be one of Trump's lawyers wants his own ballot rejected!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/22/attorney-heading-up-trump-recount-wants-throw-out-his-own-vote/6382647002/
Please post some of your findings of weird observer behaviors you come across.
Understanding Wisc Election Procedures
Wisconsin has very transparent election procedures. Here is the link to several trainings that are provided for just about every person involved in an election.
This includes;
-- the average poll worker ( Election Inspector)
-- the poll administrator ( Chief Election Inspector)
-- municipal clerks
--Election Observers and video webinars, more...
Quite a few of the Trump accusations can be answered with these official documents and training resources.
All PDFs have indexes that can be searched with Acrobat Reader, Foxit or other PDF reader/editor apps.
Have fun.
https://elections.wi.gov/clerks/education-training
This is a revised, and toned down post. My last post was rightly removed, as I got a bit miffed and tore into another DU member. Educating each other is a great part of DU, and providing resources helps us clarify facts from fiction.
Gov Evers Prime Time Appeal: GOP & Courts Won't Help
On Nov.10th, Wisc Gov. Tony Evers gave a prime time speech to appeal to the citizens of Wisconsin to step up and confront the CoVid pandemic surge in the state.
WISCONSIN HAS A 36% INFECTION RATE
Knowing the state's GOP will do nothing, and fight every attempt to control or even slightly reduce CoVid transmission, his order is advisory only.
(from Madison.com, Mitchell Schmidt | Wisconsin State Journal , Riley Vetterkind | Wisconsin State Journal)
"...the order advises Wisconsinites to stay home, urges precautions people should take if they have to leave their homes and encourages businesses to take additional steps to protect workers, customers and the surrounding community.
The order, which essentially carries no legal weight, does not include any penalties for noncompliance."
Evers issued the state’s first COVID-19 emergency order in March, when the state faced single-digit positive cases. Later that month, Department of Health Services Secretary Andrea Palm implemented a stay-at-home order to reduce travel, close some businesses and limit services at others.
In May, Wisconsin Republicans successfully sued to strike down the order. The conservative-majority Wisconsin Supreme Court that month ruled Palm had exceeded her authority with the “safer at home” order, allowing some businesses and restaurants to open immediately.
In July, Evers declared a new public health emergency and a separate order requiring face masks statewide. In September, Evers extended the mask mandate through Nov. 21. Republicans have challenged the new order, which is being reviewed by the state Supreme Court.
Last Friday, the Wisconsin Court of Appeals ruled that Palm’s order limiting the size of some indoor public gatherings — issued Oct. 6 — was “invalid and unenforceable.” The court ruling was issued on the same day the order was slated to expire. Evers pledged to challenge the decision.
The result of these numerous court cases, however, has largely stripped away the governor’s ability to take any meaningful action to combat the virus without the help of the Legislature, which so far hasn’t signaled plans to do anything."
https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/tony-evers-in-prime-time-speech-announces-new-covid-19-order-advising-wisconsinites-to-stay/article_72428502-2bef-5802-b5c5-1baf0741159e.html#tracking-source=home-breaking
Do poll workers have standing to sue?
It seems everyone under the sun is suing the outcome of the election, especially the candidates who should have that right.
It is imperative that every election's ballots reflect the validated winners. That is the basic function of an election.
But when challenges and lawsuits are disparaging the processes; that the people applying the legal election processes; poll workers, canvass counters, recounts, etc.are subject to potential libel, slander or exposure to violent reaction. Do poll workers have legal protections?
This has nothing to do with the fact that poll workers, voluntarily took risks to work on Nov 3rd, which would include;
--exposure to the CoVid virus
--exposure to potential violence in the polling location
--following a municipal/county clerk's order to handle a ballot a certain way, which ultimately could be incorrect or illegal.
Is there precedent in past elections; like Florida 2000?
More than 100% voters can happen
It did in a tiny town just north of Green Bay.
This article explains how that could happen.
Eligible voters are ESTIMATED based on the prior census (2010), so population will change by 2020, but it's still estimated by the state.
There is no actual count until the next census, which may be in effect in 2021 or 2022 to create new estimates of how many voters their might be.
It's a good explanation, but yes they did exceed 100% in Doty, WI A town of about 250 people.
https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/oconto-county/2020/11/05/oconto-county-elections-voter-turnout-doty-exceeds-100/6178653002/
Give Up Your US Citizenship?
We hear lots of people threaten to leave the US forever, after every POTUS election.
These 'all or nothing' thinkers, on both sides, often make that threat to leave.
I googled how to give up citizenship and up pops 1.8 Million results.
The top link sent me to the US State Dept forms archive.
There is a form (of course) to renounce your US citzenship.
It looks pretty simple to do. Why am I laughing so hard?
https://eforms.state.gov/Forms/ds4080.pdf
After Note: I have no idea what the actual steps or processes are to renounce US citizenship, but I suspect it's quite involved and not something that can be done with this single form, while having a bad day as a Trumpie might since Biden won the election. So please don't blame me for any mass emigrations.
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