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DemocratSinceBirth's Journal
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January 12, 2017

Is MSNBC becoming FOX LITE?

January 12, 2017

Even if Pee-gate isnt true, Donald Trump is stuck with it.

Even if Pee-gate isn’t true, Donald Trump is stuck with it.You may have heard that some controversial documents were leaked last night by BuzzFeed, the juiciest of which alleges that Trump likes to get peed on. Or likes to pee on women. Something with piss.
The actual report, which is unconfirmed, states that Trump hired prostitutes in Russia to perform a “golden showers urination show” for him, which Russian authorities planned to use as “compromising material” to blackmail him. The details have been the subject of some amused debate on Twitter—was Trump actually showered upon? or did he just watch? is urine sterile?—but they don’t really matter. What matters is that the connection between Trump and kinky pee is now seared into our collective consciousness.

The scandal tracks closely with this famous “would you rather” conundrum: Would you rather have sex with a goat but have nobody know, or not and have everyone think you did? David Cameron is a real-life exemplar of this query. An unsubstantiated allegation was published last year alleging that he had stuck his nob in a pig’s gob. The chances that Trump or Cameron actually did these salacious acts are small, but that doesn’t change the fact that everyone can’t stop seeing and talking about it.

Trump did his best to discredit the report, signaling in a rare use of all-caps that this was a Drudge siren–level offense: “FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” Trump’s Twitter feed is fake news incarnate, but (and it pains me to say it) he was not wrong to label Pee-gate a kind of fake news. The paradox is that in the era of fake news, the term “fake news” has lost any real meaning, in no small part due to Trump. News is as partisan as anything else, a blunt weapon to be used against political opponents. And whether the story is true or not, Trump has to live with it.

January 11, 2017

Did Deplorables at 4Chan create the Peepeegate documents ?

It is the Trump trolls at 4Chan that are saying that one of them created the Peepeegate documents. Cui bono? They are, of course, saying that to discredit the story as apocryphal. If the documents were forgeries they were damn good forgeries because they fooled various intelligence agencies, United States senators, and the president.

There is an interesting news story from the Guardian about the authenticity of the documents:

The Guardian: source for 35 page "dossier" is "consistently reliable, meticulous,

and well informed."


Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself.

The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant.

The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents’ contents, and the Trump team has consistently denied any hidden contacts with the Russian government.


An official in the US administration who spoke to the Guardian described the source who wrote the intelligence report as consistently reliable, meticulous and well-informed, with a reputation for having extensive Russian contacts.

Some of the reports – which are dated from 20 June to 20 October last year – also proved to be prescient, predicting events that happened after they were sent.

We will learn soon enough if these documents are what they seem to be. It is in the Deplorables interest that they aren't
January 11, 2017

The hits keep coming

January 11, 2017

This is different than the "debunked" Rather Bush AWOL story

I said this months ago. The Deplorables have destroyed objective truth. Even if Trump didn't pay Russian hookers to pee on one another to defile a bed the Obamas once slept on it sounds like something he would do and that's all that matters. Now all the Deplorables can do is chase their tails debunking the story.

ON EDIT-We do not have enough information to make definitive conclusions whether or not the account is apocryphal. Maybe it is true. Maybe it isn't.

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